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epic skillz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-27 13:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: epic skillz
Hello all, I recently came back to eve on my main toon, I have this guy ( /waves ) and I would wish to turn him into my first indy char.

I have never done mining / manufacturing / anything other than pvp and chain level 4 missions..

So I am very clueless if I am honest, the whole aspect is confusing me..

Anyway I have trained for a retriever on this low sp char, and gona get a hulk eventually.. figured I would mine on laptop while playing my main, this char shall be for isk making while my other dude runs missions / pvp.

I would like info on what is the best way to make isk on an indy, and what I should train for, should I carry on the mining route, or should I reprocess my salvage from my mission runner and make things? or research? ( I have no idea how to do any of these tbh )


I just wana decent isk income from a semi afk alt..

please assist thank you.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-27 16:04:29 UTC
I started a support toon recently. Here is what I did:

My plan:
1) hauling/mining/salvaging - in that order - to assist more advanced toons in fleet ops and missions while growing skills
- I chose Gallente haulers because the Iteron V has the most capacity of any T1 hauler in the game.
- subtopics are training ice and ore processing so you can use T2 strip miners and crystals
- train all mining/hauling support skills and rig skills to reduce negative affects
2) PI and transport ships - for PI in Lo Sec - parts + pieces + profits
- this training tree does not take all that long, surprisingly
- this must include cloaking skills to use the Cov Ops cloak, so train for any modules you want to use too.

All this fits perfectly in our Indy corp. My main flies a gang boost ship (Orca or Drake depending). Which brings up the point that you could be training to occupy a specific role in an Indy corp.

That should be enough to get you started. Once you have an income stream, you can branch in a lot of different directions: manufacturing, logistics support, Orca pilot and leadership boost type skills, etc.

Have fun !
epic skillz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-27 18:17:02 UTC
sounds good to me!

I was just checking also, my main toon can fly orca in like 2 days..

Maybe I could mine on one guy n pick up on other dude when im not doing anything!

Rhostanko
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-06-02 23:39:24 UTC
Mining in the worst way to make ISK in the game. If you want AFK income, take up station trading/invention + manufacturing. My trading alt makes 300m a day for an hour of effort with about 1m SP in trade skills. It can, however, be tedious. If you just came back, read about Hulkageddon too, it's this griefing thing a bunch of high schoolers are doing.
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-03 15:05:27 UTC
how about trying a less grinding overall approach?

train the new char up in probing and for cov ops frig. prob down sites in low sec. scan down and do all the sites and complexes with your main. isk to be had!

no more grinding, still damn good isk and pvp always at your front door step when you want or even when you don't want it Pirate

other thing is now you have a solid cloaky scout as well. your main can use caps? cyno alt as well if need be.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-04 02:23:43 UTC
Rhostanko wrote:
Mining in the worst way to make ISK in the game. If you want AFK income, take up station trading/invention + manufacturing. My trading alt makes 300m a day for an hour of effort with about 1m SP in trade skills. It can, however, be tedious. If you just came back, read about Hulkageddon too, it's this griefing thing a bunch of high schoolers are doing.


if you aren't the brightest bulb in the box you can lose a fortune in an hour in trade with 1m SP. Read everything you can before you dive into station trade.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-04 02:39:28 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Rhostanko wrote:
Mining in the worst way to make ISK in the game. If you want AFK income, take up station trading/invention + manufacturing. My trading alt makes 300m a day for an hour of effort with about 1m SP in trade skills. It can, however, be tedious. If you just came back, read about Hulkageddon too, it's this griefing thing a bunch of high schoolers are doing.


if you aren't the brightest bulb in the box you can lose a fortune in an hour in trade with 1m SP. Read everything you can before you dive into station trade.



Agreed. Nothin worse than tying up lots of isk in a slow moving commodity that you thought would turn around quickly

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
D3F4ULT
#8 - 2012-06-06 15:47:29 UTC
Veteran miner here, it will take you about 2-3 months to be effective at mining. Must have a Hulk, hauler, refining skills, good standings with npc station. Then you must mine a lot for it to be a significant amount of isk. Maybe around 2-6 hours a day to bring in about 50-100m just depends how effective and active you are.

The higher isk/hr is down in null with ABC ores where also better ratting exists. If youre in for making money fast then mining isnt the way to go unless youre recieving 100% fleet boosts and ripping roids left and right.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#9 - 2012-06-06 16:02:17 UTC
PI is where you want to go for passive income. As said earlier in the thread, it doesn't take long to finish skilling for PI (Maybe a week or so, provided you don't go rank V)

The trick to PI is finding a cluster of planets in low/null with decent tax rates. There are plenty of corps out there with tax policies that are friendly to neutrals. Or you could join a corp that owns planets.


PI won't bring in the big bucks like a dedicated veteran miner or active and intelligent station trader can, but you can do other things...like mine or station trade... while your planets are busy making you goods.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.