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Processor Overclocking Unit -or- WTF Eve Math!?!?
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Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#1 - 2012-05-27 17:06:41 UTC
So, I'm looking at the new rig.

It says plain as day "CPU Output Bonus 7.1%" so I'm inclined to mean the CPU output gets 7.1% better.

Then it says "Shield Recharge Rate Bonus -5%" and I'm confused.

Is this supposed to be a penalty? Do the shields recharge slower with this fit?

Comparing to an average Purger rig, which says "Shield Recharge Rate Bonus -20%", I'm inclined to think it's supposed to be a good thing. Shields recharge faster.


Which leads me back to a stance I've held for a very long time.

"Eve Math" is r3tard3d!!

How about we get item descriptions that make sense?

"Bonus" vs "Penalty" and Positive Numbers vs Negative Numbers

I really don't care if that's how the underlying code sees the interaction of ships and modules.

I want to look at an item on Market, and know straight off "Plugging this in will help" or "Plugging this in will hurt".
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#2 - 2012-05-27 17:17:54 UTC
Man, I hope you don't come across those 'RoF' decrease bonuses...
Haeri
Club Bear
#3 - 2012-05-27 17:27:46 UTC
A negative bonus is a penalty.

A negative penalty is a bonus,

Logic'd.

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Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#4 - 2012-05-27 17:33:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Gideon
That's my point!

I'm sure there's A LOT of math going on behind the scenes.

But I don't need to know those equations.

Just tell me "bonus" and "penalty" in plain english.

EDIT:

A negative bonus isn't always a penalty. Like the Purger, recharge rate bonus -20%
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-27 20:11:38 UTC
Marcus Gideon wrote:
EDIT:

A negative bonus isn't always a penalty. Like the Purger, recharge rate bonus -20%


Yeah, I don't know what the **** is up with their bonus descriptions, they always pick the most bass-ackwards way of describing stuff.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-27 20:23:41 UTC
CCP's descriptions are not very intuitive at times. It makes the shield recharge worse.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-05-27 20:30:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
nm i am dumb, thought he was talking about purgers not the CPU rig
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#8 - 2012-05-27 22:55:59 UTC
See... the debate continues.

Shield Purger (makes shields recharge faster) = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -20%

Processor = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -5%

Seems to me, both of those are going to make it faster.
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-27 23:21:03 UTC
Marcus Gideon wrote:
See... the debate continues.

Shield Purger (makes shields recharge faster) = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -20%

Processor = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -5%

Seems to me, both of those are going to make it faster.


purgers give -20% to shield regen time, not bonus, I think.
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-05-28 01:07:04 UTC
Masamune Dekoro wrote:
Marcus Gideon wrote:
See... the debate continues.

Shield Purger (makes shields recharge faster) = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -20%

Processor = Shield Regen Rate Bonus -5%

Seems to me, both of those are going to make it faster.


purgers give -20% to shield regen time, not bonus, I think.


-20% to regen time would make it faster.
-5% to regen rate would made it slower.

What I don't get is why they don't just choose one - rate or time - and stick with it, instead of switching between them so damn much. Oops
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#11 - 2012-05-28 01:40:46 UTC
None of them say "time".

They both say "recharge rate bonus".
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2012-05-28 07:29:09 UTC
Drawbacks are always penalties (things to be avoided).
Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#13 - 2012-05-28 08:42:55 UTC
Marcus Gideon wrote:


Comparing to an average Purger rig, which says "Shield Recharge Rate Bonus -20%"



It should say "Shield Recharge Rate Bonus +20%", or "Shield Recharge Time Bonus -20%" instead. IMO. The current wording is simply incorrect.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-28 10:14:05 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
CCP's descriptions are not very intuitive at times. It makes the shield recharge worse.


Because English is silly Lol

brb
Liam Mirren
#15 - 2012-05-28 11:25:46 UTC
Stop expecting CCP to use logic, it'll never happen.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#16 - 2012-05-29 11:04:09 UTC
Shield Purgers have an ALADEEN bonus to shield recharge time.

The CPU unit has an ALADEEN bonus to shield recharge time.

Please dont tell me your somehow confused as to whether its positive or negative...
TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-05-29 17:03:48 UTC
Until they fix the wording of some of the modules in this game(if ever), we might have to employ a little common sense as to what these modules actually do. Usually there is a good and a bad that comes to fitting certain modules. Rarely if ever will there be two goods.




just call me captain obvious
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-05-29 19:12:21 UTC
It's not as bad as the RoF modules in which there's no doubt whether you're getting a bonus or penalty, but the description describes a 33% RoF bonus as a 25% bonus.