These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

The New ui and Ccp that put this trash out

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-26 18:46:22 UTC
Ok Ccp you had your time to think about this trash you give us now it time to speak up and let us know your listening to us.

I did testing on sisi and now on the live game and guess what it still sucks. Ive used the shift key to open cargo cans in diffent windows and it lag so bad it takes 3x longer or more to loot the damn cans and half the damn time the window dont close it stay open and changeing to the cargo hold!!!

Now speak the hell up and let us know what your going to do about this. i told your gm on sisi it sucked and did they or you as a hold listen hell no you never listen you ___ hats.

Now with that said you should put who ever ok this ui trash in a pod and let us pop them untill 1 we are happy 2 eather change back to the old ui or fix the damn lag and all the damn bugs you put out in this trash. its not faster it 3x or more slower you clowns.

Think iam pissed damn right been playing for allmost 5 years now and i have never see a game do this bad at fixing something that was not broke!! do we need to blast everything in jita this to for you to hear us or just pull or cash out of your hands so you lose jobs untill you listen? your pick.

now let the trash talk start i look forward to see how low the player base is.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Citizen Smif
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-26 18:47:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Citizen Smif
*edit for more civil response*

All of this moaning is unbelievable.. It was a really good move by CCP initially to apologise to the playerbase for mistakes made. But now it's led to this pampering culture where every little change will inevitably lead to "fix or mass unsubs." It's bullshit and in the long run any able-minded company will be looking into long-term plans to reduce their reliance on **** wits such as you and the others who are constantly moaning. So really these hundreds of threads are doing nothing but hurting the value of the suggestions the rest of us can make.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-26 18:57:26 UTC
Holy ****. The new inventory is better. It's easier to use. There's a list on the left side, u drag stuff from the right side to where you want it to go on the left side. How is that not easy? I have yet run into a situation where I need or wanted to shift click to open a window. Why do you need a different window? That one window has it all there.

Seriously what exactly is the issue with the new inventory? I loot missions sometimes, no problem, I use a manu POS, no problem. What is it that people are having difficulties achieving with the new inventory???

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-05-26 19:02:12 UTC
Citizen Smif wrote:
All of this moaning is unbelievable.. It was a really good move by CCP initially to apologise to the playerbase for mistakes made. But now it's led to this pampering culture where every little change will inevitably lead to "fix or mass unsubs."
No. What led to that was the inability to actually listen to feedback before pushing unfinished code onto the live server, giving the impression that the only means of getting the message across was to scream loudly and threaten actual monetary loss.

Quote:
So really these hundreds of threads are doing nothing but hurting the value of the suggestions the rest of us can make.
That value is hurt far more by their seeming unwillingness to take those suggestions to heart without the backup of all those hundreds of threads…

Rath Kelbore wrote:
Holy ****. The new inventory is better. It's easier to use.
It's also slower, less efficient, less functional, buggy, and generally incomplete. If you haven't caught on what the issue with the new inventory is yet, it's because you've been trying really really hard to stay ignorant about it.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-26 19:04:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Rath Kelbore
Tippia wrote:
Citizen Smif wrote:
All of this moaning is unbelievable.. It was a really good move by CCP initially to apologise to the playerbase for mistakes made. But now it's led to this pampering culture where every little change will inevitably lead to "fix or mass unsubs."
No. What led to that was the inability to actually listen to feedback before pushing unfinished code onto the live server, giving the impression that the only means of getting the message across was to scream loudly and threaten actual monetary loss.

Quote:
So really these hundreds of threads are doing nothing but hurting the value of the suggestions the rest of us can make.
That value is hurt far more by their seeming unwillingness to take those suggestions to heart without the backup of all those hundreds of threads…

Rath Kelbore wrote:
Holy ****. The new inventory is better. It's easier to use.
It's also slower, less efficient, less functional, buggy, and generally incomplete. If you haven't caught on what the issue with the new inventory is yet, it's because you've been trying really really hard to stay ignorant about it.


Honestly, the only thing I've noticed with the new inventory is when I open it in a station it sometimes takes a 5 seconds or so to load. Give me one or two specific examples of issues you've had with it and I will see if I can duplicate them. Then maybe I'll understand.

Edit: As far as less efficient goes. I don't see how, I find it easier to work with when moving things around in POS arrays, using the filters for grabbing stuff out of my hangar, and everything else I use it for. Again, give me a couple specific examples so I can be enlightened. Then I can hate the inventory as much as the rest of you seem to.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-05-26 19:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Rath Kelbore wrote:
Honestly, the only thing I've noticed with the new inventory is when I open it in a station it sometimes takes a 5 seconds or so to load. Give me one or two specific examples of issues you've had with it and I will see if I can duplicate them.
At this very moment, there are roughly 5,000 posts in the test feedback forum, the information portal, in GD, and… well… just about everywhere else that lists these issues. Go read them.

Quote:
As far as less efficient goes. I don't see how
Go read about the topic before commenting.

edit: Vastly underestimated the number of posts. Now with a better (but still low-ball) estimate.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-26 19:22:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
Honestly, the only thing I've noticed with the new inventory is when I open it in a station it sometimes takes a 5 seconds or so to load. Give me one or two specific examples of issues you've had with it and I will see if I can duplicate them.
At this very moment, there are roughly 5,000 posts in the test feedback forum, the information portal, in GD, and… well… just about everywhere else that lists these issues. Go read them.

Quote:
As far as less efficient goes. I don't see how
Go read about the topic before commenting.

edit: Vastly underestimated the number of posts. Now with a better (but still low-ball) estimate.


I watched your video. "I can't spam loot all while looking at my cargo hold". "I can't have windows open all over my screen so I can see my cargo, dronebay, market deliveries, ect at the same time."

Just a couple examples. Those things don't bother me at all. I'm surprised they bother you so much. The new inventory eliminates the need to have so many windows open(I don't feel the need to monitor them closely simultaneously). In my opinion, this is a good thing. Not a bad thing.

I understand your issues now, I just don't agree with most of them. Overall, for the my uses , the new system is way better. A lot of this rage seems to be from people not wanting to change the way they do things even if it's just as good or better than the old way of doing things.

But whatever, obviously you and many others feel the new inventory is unacceptable, I have no problem with it and find it easier to use for what I am doing than the old system. We'll have to just disagree I suppose :)

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-05-26 19:46:19 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
The new inventory eliminates the need to have so many windows open
No, they don't, because you lose the extra information, you lose the speed, you lose the immediate access, you lose the consistency. All of them bad things.
Mathias Hex
#9 - 2012-05-26 19:55:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
The new inventory eliminates the need to have so many windows open
No, they don't, because you lose the extra information, you lose the speed, you lose the immediate access, you lose the consistency. All of them bad things.


On the contrary, even if you have multiple windows open you have to click on each window before you can scroll down or whatever. Whats the difference if you have to click on a tab to view and use a window in th UI?

You all are really just mad because you cant view multiple windows which is essentially pointless, you need not see the list your moving items to since you have to click and scroll to see the item transfered anyway.

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-26 19:59:52 UTC
stop bit***...move on..
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#11 - 2012-05-26 20:05:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
The new inventory eliminates the need to have so many windows open
No, they don't, because you lose the extra information, you lose the speed, you lose the immediate access, you lose the consistency. All of them bad things.


You lose the immediate access of having everything in one place, instead of a dozen windows floating around and cluttering the screen?

Not a bad thing -- an easy and convenient thing.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2012-05-26 20:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
You lose the immediate access of having everything in one place, instead of a dozen windows floating around and cluttering the screen?
No, I lose the immediate access of having everything actually immediately available in 3–4 windows that stay in one place, out of the way and without cluttering up the screen, instead of having to click-and-scroll around and still not be able to see more than one location (so there is no immediate access anyway), and/or to have a big window floating around and cluttering up the screen.

“Everything in one place” inherently means that there is no immediate access; there never was any “dozens of windows floating around”; the screen clutter was of your own choosing and making. The new system is indeed bad — it's slow, cumbersome, inconvenient, inconsistent, uncontrollable, not to mention buggy, bloated, ill-conceived, and generally unsuited for any kind of complex workflow, environment, or inventory management task.

Saorlan wrote:
The OP is clearly mentally challenged. Enough said.
You are clearly illiterate. Enough said. Tell you handler to read the rest of the forums for you. Roll
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-05-26 20:35:04 UTC
I love the new UI! Great work by CCP so now I don't have to scroll through miles of useless stuff to find what I want Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Karl L
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-05-26 20:41:55 UTC
Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-27 00:30:21 UTC
for those of you that love the new UI please put the crack pipe down.

Once they put it on sisi the up roar of hated started on it. If and i mean If they fixed the lag and all the other bugs it has you would not have a ton of posts if people calling it what it is trash.

When your looting 40 fing cans in a mission and you use the Shift key to open them half of the time it works fine the other half it does not close at all or takes 10 secs or more to close or it just stays open and opens your cargo hull.

Now please tell me how this is better?!? as for the filters fine great but i know alot of pos owners that hate the new ui as well but has CCP got off there fat butts to come out and say ok this needs to be fix hell no they have not said a damn thing.

CCP as a whole never listens to the players they say they do. the only time they listen is when we do stuff like the whole shot the crap out of jita bit.

I read a posting after they put in CQ and the mass of player left the game and 120 CCP people lost there jobs because we the players told them f u fix this or your done.

I have never ask ccp for much other then dont break what not broken and look that happen they keep doing it.

As for there gred we all know about ccps gred. do me a favor ccp fire that dumb ass that work on the new ui and who ever ok'd this pile of trash.

Right now CCP you have one game only one dust 514 will fail if you f up eve rember that we keep you going.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#16 - 2012-05-27 00:56:25 UTC
Saorlan wrote:
... The vast majority of players are happy with the changes.
No, they are not. In game I have yet to find anybody that is satisfied with the new UI as it is now. And I have talked to a lot of people in game about this new UI.
No. One. Liked. It.!.

I am glad for the players that do like it, but as some of those 'likers' have stated, it suits THEIR needs, THEIR modus operandi.
Not someone else's. Not mine.

That was the true strength of the old system, you could virtually adjust it to nearly every situational need and purpose. And of course to personal taste and work flow.
It was clunky, easy to learn/hard to master. But it worked. The new one? Not so much.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2012-05-27 02:43:09 UTC
The only thing bad is the STUPID LAGG.
It's a major damn problem.
Dray Cil
Subterfuge Blackmail Sabotage Deception Network
Black Rose.
#18 - 2012-05-27 03:02:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Dray Cil
Ammzi wrote:
The only thing bad is the STUPID LAG.
It's a major damn problem.


Yeah, that's pretty much my problem with it too. In general, I like it. But waiting 5-6 seconds for the corp hanger tabs to appear every single time you dock is pretty annoying. And sometimes they don't show up at all and you have to close the window, and re-open for them to show. HOPEFULLY these are bugs and will be ironed out. Also, looting as mentioned previously, sucks now.

On the other hand, I've found the filters an amazing feature.

Dray

o.O
loki energon
Anasazi Wanderratter's Social Club
#19 - 2012-05-27 03:03:58 UTC
click wreck, hit open wreck button, hit loot all button, close wreck.


hmm yup.

that is hard as s!@#, im not sure WHAT im gonna do now..............


sheesh, if i decide to salvage ill have to hit ANOTHER button, this whole new fangled thing is busted. CCP fix it now!!!


if you hate it soo bad here the door is over there. YOU pay the monthly fee, or you spend 6 hours a day here, dual and triple boxing multiple alts you pay for with plexes that you buy from farming a different set of mining alts. that last sentence deserved no punctuation. if you think its THE END OF DAYS!!!, then you need to visit the forums of any other mmo. because every game and every game forum is full of the same crap. if it sucks, stop doing it. CCP does more than most other games as far as listening to the player base. give it a chance, be constructive not just lame. give an alternative, dont just smack talk.

i like the new inventory, it puts every thing into one place. lets me see it all easier without right clicking on one window to open another. real easy to drop and drag from ship to hanger and vice versa. oh, and the best is the easy to find new drone bay location.
thx guys good job, i like it.

kill em all.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2012-05-27 10:55:16 UTC
Please do not open multiple threads about the same topic, thank you.

Thread locked.

Feedback about the new Inventory UI and planned improvements can be continued here. Please read also this dev blog. We welcome your constructive feedback.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer