EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

Hi, you're dumb, the CEO of Pandemic Legion is Shamis Orzoz, the CEO of waffles is not, nor has it ever been, Shamis Orzoz.

I hope this helps you understand how stupid you look, because you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about and didn't even have the reading comprehension skills to understand what CCP wrote.

You should read it again, the CEO of waffles is a PL memeber, of course we would have a man from PL as the headmaster to the school, but we weren't colluding, I see you may have a problem understanding what that word means, you should look it up, and know that IT is the reason you should be angry....at Hyxra.

@Gunnat Twenty,

Well written and a pleasure to read eventhough english isnt my native language.
I am going to agree with you for what it's worth. And in my personal opinion the majority of players, as far as i noticed on these forums, usually tend to act like midieval lynchmobs when someone screams heretic.

Good luck with your plea, though i doubt it will change much.

I'm supporting the OP, of course. Only Goons (and their Dev alts) and PL are not



Yes this. Christ CCP this didn't work last time /o

What, no fool, they put the friggin rule in that specifically says NO COLLUDING, so no, jumping everybody into a single corp, is simply colluding, it was obvious and they shouldn't have done it.

It is blatantly obvious they are colluding just like they did last year. Your argument is "you can't prove that they are intending to". Well their actions are ample proof they are colluding. Then your further argument is "everyone is doing it, why pick on these guys?"

MY opinion is that generally alliances that are competing this year are spying / stealing setups, some are sparring, and there may even be a well hidden B team or two out there somewhere.

But NOBODY even comes close to what Hydra and Outbreak were/are doing. Not even close. They are the archetype, the name brand. They showed everyone how it was done, and started doing it again.

Edit: Not sure if you are trolling but just think for a minute what would happen if we allowed teams to operate like Hydra and Outbreak do. You couldn't "prove" that the 8 alliances that all were in a single corp in a wormhole practicing together, fielding the same setups, sharing logistics at a level that would give them an unfair advantage is not some form of collusion? Really? "But we have our own pilots" "But we don't arrange fights for mutual advantage" "But we have no 'intention' of doing anything like this" and "we don't share intel". I think it would be blatantly obvious that those 8 alliances were working together enough to be considered one single team. And that would make it against the rules.

CVA and 4th were imitating last year's champions and doing everything that last year's champions did. By your wording I assume that they did not actually join the same corporation. You are now guessing their intentions? Don't you hate it when other people do that?

They were following your lead. My starting point was doing the same thing, taking all your setups I could find and watching all the matches. Obviously wormholes are too much :effort: for us.

If you want to be successful you will generally find an archetype that has been successful and imitate them.

Life is unfair. At least you have next year to look forward to.

You can also whine until your account gets muted and then deleted. Then you can get more mad and burn a bunch of alts until they eventually ban you completely. Then you can get even madder and make a bunch of threats and insults against CCP employees. That is the path to freedom! The only way to win EVE.

I think you are wrong. Completely in the wrong on this whole issue.

And I also think you are in the minority. You can rally all the noob corp supporters you want, and start as many threads as you want.

You don't have the mass you need to make a threadnaught, and you are slowly alienating the same people who will decide if you are ever let in again.

But it is your life m8. o7

I doubt they will want to try ever again, there will always be chance they will be banned without proper reasons, they already trusted senior GM and it turned out to be bad decision.

Everyone here knows posts wont change anything in this case, so tbh there is no point in posting here (:effort:), i guess most people who posted already are: hydra/ob members - hydra/ob haters, friends on both sides, trolls + people who appreciate work done by both ally on making eve more interesting place (esp. in solo/skirmish pvp). While following a few community forums i can see most people disagree with CCP on this case, especially on way how CCP handled this one.

Also LuLz @ CCP deleting posts including dev replies.

I was just basing it off the post in question, thanks for clarifying. I am not trying to spin it one way or another, I just feel that the fact that others have felt the rules were very vague was a good indication of how harsh the ruling was after ignoring all attempts at communication.

Why did you decline? Did you feel it was too close to the colluding rule? If so, I guess only CVA was confused about the rule as well as HYDRA & Outbreak.

I am not trying to dig you into a hole here, you guys did nothing wrong - I posted something wrong, my apologies. :) I feel bad for the CVA guys who spent so much time preparing in their wormhole only to have the guy who was supposed to bid for them not actually bother showing up for the auctions, it seems.

We declined because honestly... Why bother? The top metagaming teams (and they do exist, trust me.. I received notes from Raivi on Hydra-team at8) are focusing on spying on the biggest/"best" teams. We're not one of them. CVA isn't one of them. No spies ever showed up for our irregular excercises. Another reason is also our pride. We love CVA and they've been among our closest allies for the past 7-8 years, but we don't leave our corps to join another alliance. Not on TQ, not on SiSi. If we had been spied on and went to a WH, we would have set up our own base instead.