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Removing Local is only part of the solution

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Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#141 - 2012-05-26 19:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Richard Desturned wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
A lack of local would make them have to actually defend their space


you seem to think that removing local would somehow be beneficial to small alliances

hint: who can devote more resources to keeping space defended, a small alliance of 200 or a gigantic powerbloc?


damn. This is the second time i have to +1 a goon ever and both times happened in this thread. wtf is going on?
i have got to stop doing this. you are making me look bad!
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#142 - 2012-05-26 19:42:13 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:


Yeah people would die to proper planning and preparation. Makes sense. Subs would be endless in number. Tens of millions!



Planning?
Yeah. Plan to log off, Then plan to log on.

Preparation?
You warp cloaked, a couple of times, press Dscan after each warp.

Result:-
Uncounterable tactic.


It beggars belief, you cannot see the repercussions, of this 1 simple scenerio.




Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#143 - 2012-05-26 19:45:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Thats the thing Zim, the only way to get a kill is by "hoping" they don't notice your name in local. Or that they don't use a neutral scout. Le Sigh.

Im trying really hard to be polite here. Pull your fingers out of your ears, stop stamping your feet. Read and think. Okay?


Why so serious?
ROFL. He actually thinks that wardecking in high sec is pvp /facepalm
I guess since he does not get to met his quota, he want to take out on the pvers in 0.0. Just in case you dont know, going vs pve ship is not pvp!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2012-05-26 19:48:44 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
It beggars belief, you cannot see the repercussions, of this 1 simple scenerio.

I'm pretty sure he knows, and more specifically is hoping for exactly that scenario.

Andrea Roche wrote:
Why so serious?
ROFL. He actually thinks that wardecking in high sec is pvp /facepalm
I guess since he does not get to met his quota, he ant to take out on the pvers in 0.0. Just in case you dont know, going vs pve ship is not pvp!

Well, since it is a player vs a player, it technically is. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, but technically, it's still PVP.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-05-26 19:56:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
It beggars belief, you cannot see the repercussions, of this 1 simple scenerio.

I'm pretty sure he knows, and more specifically is hoping for exactly that scenario.

Andrea Roche wrote:
Why so serious?
ROFL. He actually thinks that wardecking in high sec is pvp /facepalm
I guess since he does not get to met his quota, he ant to take out on the pvers in 0.0. Just in case you dont know, going vs pve ship is not pvp!

Well, since it is a player vs a player, it technically is. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, but technically, it's still PVP.


no its not. its like going vs a barrage. The battle is already determined. A pvp fit ship will always win. A pve ship does not have a point so the pvp fit can always disengage and run
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2012-05-26 19:57:55 UTC
Yes, hence "it's like shooting fish in a barrel". PVP doesn't distinguish between the quality of the sides, unequal PVP is still PVP.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#147 - 2012-05-26 20:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Yes, hence "it's like shooting fish in a barrel". PVP doesn't distinguish between the quality of the sides, unequal PVP is still PVP.


nagh this one you got it wrong. Any player that is a real pvper will tell you straight up, pvp is strinctly pvp vs pvp fit. Killing barges and pve fited ships is for noobs and is not pvp!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2012-05-26 20:07:47 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Yes, hence "it's like shooting fish in a barrel". PVP doesn't distinguish between the quality of the sides, unequal PVP is still PVP.


nagh this one you got it wrong. Any player that is a real pvper will tell you straight up, pvp is strinctly pvp vs pvp fit. Killing barges and pve fited ships is for noobs and is not pvp!

No. ~Elite PVP~ fellas might want to elevate the status of "PVP" to honourable PVP, but any action by one player against another player is PVP. If I cause someone to lose money because I manipulated the marked to artificially inflate the market price, and got someone to put up a buy order which is much higher than it should've been and dump everything I had in there so he loses a ton of money, that's market PVP.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2012-05-26 20:10:18 UTC
The tought of not being able to spam local is frightening.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#150 - 2012-05-26 20:14:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Yes, hence "it's like shooting fish in a barrel". PVP doesn't distinguish between the quality of the sides, unequal PVP is still PVP.


nagh this one you got it wrong. Any player that is a real pvper will tell you straight up, pvp is strinctly pvp vs pvp fit. Killing barges and pve fited ships is for noobs and is not pvp!

No. ~Elite PVP~ fellas might want to elevate the status of "PVP" to honourable PVP, but any action by one player against another player is PVP. If I cause someone to lose money because I manipulated the marked to artificially inflate the market price, and got someone to put up a buy order which is much higher than it should've been and dump everything I had in there so he loses a ton of money, that's market PVP.


Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. Chumps call that pvp. Real pvpers call that noob fights. You can pretend this is not true but somewhre in your head something tells you that i am right and you are wrong! You just dont want to admit it.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-05-26 20:16:24 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. Chumps call that pvp. Real pvpers call that noob fights

Fine, call it what you want, it's still (P)layer (V)s (P)layer.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-05-26 20:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. Chumps call that pvp. Real pvpers call that noob fights

Fine, call it what you want, it's still (P)layer (V)s (P)layer.

Yeah sure ganking is also Player vs Player and i believe even the chumps call that ganking and not pvp? Ever wonder why? Cos Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP.
DOES NOT COMPUTE! Lol
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2012-05-26 20:20:53 UTC
Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-05-26 20:22:14 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP.


gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#155 - 2012-05-26 20:22:37 UTC
PvP is any action where you interact competitively with another player. A hulk is a PvP ship if you're using it to collect minerals which you then sell on the market. A Freighter is a PvP ship if you're transporting modules to your Alliance to supply a fleet, or to Jita where you'll undercut another seller.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#156 - 2012-05-26 20:24:05 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP.


gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now

You can read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player if you don't trust me just because I'm a goon. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#157 - 2012-05-26 20:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP.


gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now

You can read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player if you don't trust me just because I'm a goon. vOv


ROFL. Dude while you are fitted for PVP then others are fitted for PVE or incase of a freighter is not even fitted.
PVP fit vs PVE
PVP fit vs Freighter with no fit.
Yes you are doing something with another player but its not PVP. Only chumps think that killing a freighter is pvp. How long have you been playing this game? Are you gonna also call market trading PVP?
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#158 - 2012-05-26 20:31:11 UTC
Love how this thread got derailed. Thank all the trolls, since it has zero value anyway.
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#159 - 2012-05-26 20:31:57 UTC
bongsmoke wrote:
Love how this thread got derailed. Thank all the trolls, since it has zero value anyway.

i have a theory that this thread is just one big troll. I think i already said that in a previous post Twisted
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#160 - 2012-05-26 20:33:42 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
PvP is any action where you interact competitively with another player.