EVE General Discussion

Then it's a pretty good comparison, the OPEC agreement actually governs 79% of the worlds oil reserves as of 2010 and nearly 50% of the production, for a real world example of the sort of power that a cartel of this magnitude wields you only need to look at the oil crisis of the early 1970s.
Cartels holding the rest of humanity to ransom is nothing new.

Edited because I derped and got my reserves and production figures mixed up

A better example would be Pakistan holding 90% of the world's oil. Or one of the other countries that seems to hate everyone else, the US for example

My god, you are actually going to defend your ******** drooling.

1.So you are saying if force fields are developed in RL they will have "reinforcement timers" on them? Seriously?

2.Last time I checked the US has bases all around the world so that it can get a very small fraction of it's firepower anywhere in the world in 24 hours. That is because that small fraction of it's firepower was already bases 90% of the way there.

These strategic bases are a division of forces that is necessary for the US to have that response time. This is not in anyway present in Eve thanks to Jump Drive tardism. Thank you for further proving my point.

3.All the moons ARE almost entirely in one place which is what makes OPEC not at all like stupid tech monopoly. Also, OPEC is not "almost all oil production" either. Again, you are just making stuff up.

Goon are such liars. Productions aren't reserves. And those OPEC reserves are stupid lies though admittedly I don't expect a near animal intelligence such as a goon to know that.

I know the truth hurts, and being in denial makes the pain go away. But push through it, it'll get better soon!

yo we're not talking about RL oil cartels we're talking about eve tech cartels

Hey so if we're controlling 90% of the tech moons, and providing 90% of the tech on the market, doesn't that actually make us less moneygrabby than OPEC?

Which is impossible to do unless you to are a tech moon holding aliance.
Nobody else has the funds to challenge them, and anyone that has the funds to challenge them is part of the entire deal.

Face it, Tech moons as they currently exist create a vicious circle making powerful alliances even more powerful.

0.0 is pretty much the biggest carebear place around currently.
The big alliances have no reason to fight each other and have literally zero risk within their own territory that they barely have to bother defending.

I guess the comparison to oil cartels is apt, except the oil barons will run out of oil eventually, Tech moons will never be depleted.


In the end tough I doubt this will change any time soon, remember that old incident with the moon exploit? Took ages to get fixed, and this is unlikely to get changed any time soon.
The alliances will continuing to accumulate resources and money, in a while even titans will be considered expendable by them.

The only way the current system could keep working is if all the aliances where at each others throat and war was a daily occurance for any aliance up there.
Reminds me of the current debt system which will only work if all money that gets payd off also enters the system again so someone else can use it to clean their debt, but due to some rich people stockpiling money that doesn't happen.
But that is going a bit far from the topic.

Either way, moon mining is rather imbalanced in the way the 0.0 alliances are currently working.
And the more time it takes to fix this how harder it will be to even challenge these alliances.

Players created the content 'tech wars' and players need to balance it. i.e. start taking some moons.

Yes, the NC. The coalition where a majority of EVE said "the NC is killing eve", because the NC was so huge and had "so much firepower to make themselves an unattractive target". That NC.