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CSM7 Summit Topic: Null Sec

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Frying Doom
#161 - 2012-05-26 05:01:00 UTC
You might understand if you were not so bored in null sec that you sleep all the time. Ok you like local but hate sov. I can appreciate that but local is a crutch you guys sleep on.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#162 - 2012-05-26 05:06:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Lord Zim wrote:

Frying Doom wrote:
and anyone attempting to conqueror space.

How would this help anyone trying to conquer space?

You see, alliances with 100+ systems and tens of thousands of members would have no way of mustering up the resources to put cloaked afk cyno alts in young upstart alliances who only hold 1-2 systems and no way of being able to tell. Clearly this would be a big help to small alliances and really encourage them to strike out in 0.0.
Shobon Welp
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
#163 - 2012-05-26 07:00:41 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
The goons have shown quite well that they can abandon their space for a weekend with no reprocusions. Showing clearly that the Sov system must be changed. It is to hard to loose space and too hard to gain it.

The CFC roadtripped to Jita with no risk to the home territory because nobody wants to grind through 0.0 space under the current sov mechanics just to get a slightly better income than that already available in zero-risk, zero-effort highsec. Make 0.0 space more rewarding to the average player and you'll get that competition for space.

Your agenda, that 0.0 space should be a straightjacket so that Goonswarm etc can never leave their own territory for more than five minutes lest it all burst into flames, does nothing but further promote the existing political stagnation and the exodus of 0.0 residents to empire and/or lapsed subscriptions.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#164 - 2012-05-26 08:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Frying Doom wrote:
Local needs to go. Its not just covert ops this would help but also covert cyno jumps not to mention raid gangs and anyone attempting to conqueror space.


local doesn't need to go, it's just the fact that you're terrible at PvP, can't get kills when roaming in nullsec, and you proceed to complain about how easy nullsec is and how risk averse the players are there when you dropped into an NPC corp the second you saw a wardec

you want it to be hard for the players living there and much easier for the "raid gangs" because you are clearly a hypocrite who doesn't care about balance, just easy, risk-free PvP

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#165 - 2012-05-26 08:54:03 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
You might understand if you were not so bored in null sec that you sleep all the time. Ok you like local but hate sov. I can appreciate that but local is a crutch you guys sleep on.


You don't speak for me. I for one am having fun in nullsec. Tons of big fleets, small roams, defence ops. Having fun with friends and making tons of isk in the process.

The CFC has no trouble keeping members because even with nullsec's flaws (which aren't local or jump drives) we still manage to keep Eve fun for our members.


Since all your suggestions ammount to turning nullsec into w-space, why don't you just probe down a wormhole and go pester the CSM's wormhole thread?
Frying Doom
#166 - 2012-05-26 09:30:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Richard Desturned wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Local needs to go. Its not just covert ops this would help but also covert cyno jumps not to mention raid gangs and anyone attempting to conqueror space.


local doesn't need to go, it's just the fact that you're terrible at PvP, can't get kills when roaming in nullsec, and you proceed to complain about how easy nullsec is and how risk averse the players are there when you dropped into an NPC corp the second you saw a wardec

you want it to be hard for the players living there and much easier for the "raid gangs" because you are clearly a hypocrite who doesn't care about balance, just easy, risk-free PvP

Actually I don't live in Hi-sec so I dont much care about a war dec but it was funny to watch you guys waste money on an inactive corp Lol

And I left Null because it is as boring as hell thus it has a low population. You might get that if you meta gamed less.
As I said before balance is not what Null is now just boring.

Yes I get you don't want things harder in Null as the current rules benefit the large alliances so they can keep the status quo and only let small alliances in as pets.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#167 - 2012-05-26 10:11:45 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Actually I don't live in Hi-sec so I dont much care about a war dec but it was funny to watch you guys waste money on an inactive corp Lol

I don't care about a wardec because I don't live in hisec. Honest guys. *drops corp* Guys? Honest! I don't care! I'm not hiding in this NPC corp, it just makes me look less fat!

Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I get you don't want things harder in Null as the current rules benefit the large alliances so they can keep the status quo and only let small alliances in as pets.

Don't worry, we get that you're a failure as a ganker and just wants things to be easy. The sooner you come to terms with this, the sooner you can get help.

We're rooting for you!

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#168 - 2012-05-26 10:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Actually I don't live in Hi-sec so I dont much care about a war dec but it was funny to watch you guys waste money on an inactive corp Lol

I don't care about a wardec because I don't live in hisec. Honest guys. *drops corp* Guys? Honest! I don't care! I'm not hiding in this NPC corp, it just makes me look less fat!

Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I get you don't want things harder in Null as the current rules benefit the large alliances so they can keep the status quo and only let small alliances in as pets.

Don't worry, we get that you're a failure as a ganker and just wants things to be easy. The sooner you come to terms with this, the sooner you can get help.

We're rooting for you!

You seem to have no sense of humor. I thought the goons acting like school yard bullies because they can not win an argument then war decing an inactive corp funny as hell. But wait you are a goon so not likely to admit your leaders stupidity on the forums.

And I presume all the people leaving the game plus all the posts are a good indication as to how exciting this game has got by letting things stagnate. Before you say it, leaving over the UI is a crappy reason more like the last straw for alot of people.

So just to clarify you just want local so you can carebear.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2012-05-26 10:30:27 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
And I presume all the people leaving the game plus all the posts are a good indication as to how exciting this game has got by letting things stagnate. Before you say it, leaving over the UI is a crappy reason more like the last straw for alot of people.

People whine and "quit" over the littlest thing. I'll believe they've quit when they've biomassed the character.

Frying Doom wrote:
So just to clarify you just want local so you can carebear.

I don't need to carebear, I've enough cash from market manipulation to buy me a titan.

Nice try, though.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#170 - 2012-05-26 11:57:51 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

I don't need to carebear, I've enough cash from market manipulation to buy me a titan.

Nice try, though.

Oh so you don't even undock thenLol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2012-05-26 12:02:28 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:

I don't need to carebear, I've enough cash from market manipulation to buy me a titan.

Nice try, though.

Oh so you don't even undock thenLol

In hisec? Only when I have to haul stuff to the pickup point.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#172 - 2012-05-26 12:05:26 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
And I presume all the people leaving the game plus all the posts are a good indication as to how exciting this game has got by letting things stagnate. Before you say it, leaving over the UI is a crappy reason more like the last straw for alot of people.

People whine and "quit" over the littlest thing. I'll believe they've quit when they've biomassed the character.

Have you seen the server population lately. Yeah the status quo is doing really good for the game or are you going to blame inferno (The expansion CSM6 claimed as all there own).

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2012-05-26 12:06:42 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
And I presume all the people leaving the game plus all the posts are a good indication as to how exciting this game has got by letting things stagnate. Before you say it, leaving over the UI is a crappy reason more like the last straw for alot of people.

People whine and "quit" over the littlest thing. I'll believe they've quit when they've biomassed the character.

Have you seen the server population lately. Yeah the status quo is doing really good for the game or are you going to blame inferno (The expansion CSM6 claimed as all there own).

Here's a hint:

http://www.rpgreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/diablo3logo.jpg

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#174 - 2012-05-26 12:23:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
And I presume all the people leaving the game plus all the posts are a good indication as to how exciting this game has got by letting things stagnate. Before you say it, leaving over the UI is a crappy reason more like the last straw for alot of people.

People whine and "quit" over the littlest thing. I'll believe they've quit when they've biomassed the character.

Have you seen the server population lately. Yeah the status quo is doing really good for the game or are you going to blame inferno (The expansion CSM6 claimed as all there own).

Here's a hint:

http://www.rpgreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/diablo3logo.jpg

So what your saying is that eve has become so boring that people will leave to go play a crappy bug filled game. Your probably on to something there. Eve has gotten kind of dull, especially Null. You are happy to be deaf, dumb and blind, never wanting to give up any of your current perks while the house burns down.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2012-05-26 12:27:23 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So what your saying is that eve has become so crappy that people will leave to go play a crappy bug filled game. Your probably on to something there. Eve has gotten kind of dull it started as so much more.

Actually, no, that's you projecting your own feelings. What I said was that people are having a short fling with that game before crawling back and begging EVE for forgivness for cheating on her, and they'll never do it again.

That is, if blizzard's servers are alive and the players can actually log in to the game.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#176 - 2012-05-26 12:34:35 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So what your saying is that eve has become so crappy that people will leave to go play a crappy bug filled game. Your probably on to something there. Eve has gotten kind of dull it started as so much more.

Actually, no, that's you projecting your own feelings. What I said was that people are having a short fling with that game before crawling back and begging EVE for forgivness for cheating on her, and they'll never do it again.

That is, if blizzard's servers are alive and the players can actually log in to the game.

So if what your saying is true, that Eve is now so wonderful why is it that unlike every other expansion that CCP has released the population of the server fell before the release of a patch instead of increased as it has done since the game started?

If your logic was correct and it was blizzard that caused the drop in numbers wouldn't the EvE server numbers spike every time the blizzard servers went offline?

Eve needs change you are just to deaf, dumb and blind to see.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2012-05-26 12:38:51 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So if what your saying is true, that Eve is now so wonderful why is it that unlike every other expansion that CCP has released the population of the server fell before the release of a patch instead of increased as it has done since the game started?

Uh, unlike "every other expansion"? Did you forget incarna?

Frying Doom wrote:
If your logic was correct and it was blizzard that caused the drop in numbers wouldn't the EvE server numbers spike every time the blizzard servers went offline?

You really, really want everyone to say "eve is in a worse state than it has ever been", when that simply isn't the case, don't you?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#178 - 2012-05-26 13:03:15 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So if what your saying is true, that Eve is now so wonderful why is it that unlike every other expansion that CCP has released the population of the server fell before the release of a patch instead of increased as it has done since the game started?

Uh, unlike "every other expansion"? Did you forget incarna?

Read more comment less. Yes the server population and subscription's increased prior to the release of EVERY expansion except this one.

Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
If your logic was correct and it was blizzard that caused the drop in numbers wouldn't the EvE server numbers spike every time the blizzard servers went offline?

You really, really want everyone to say "eve is in a worse state than it has ever been", when that simply isn't the case, don't you?

No there are times years back when there were less subscribers than now, and yes eve was worse back but showed promise of a better future for itself but since incarna subscriptions have gone into decline and they seem to decline further all the time. The life is going out of EvE, its getting stagnant and boring, also this latest patch didn't help much at all to stop the decline making a primarily PvP patch for a game whose majority of players are not Pvper's it was pure stupidity.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#179 - 2012-05-26 13:11:33 UTC
In other words, you've forgotten about the reaction to Incarna.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#180 - 2012-05-26 13:20:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
In other words, you've forgotten about the reaction to Incarna.

Where any where did I write after the release of a patch. Please learn to read these errors are rather embarrassing.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!