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1 question/ 2 option poll for players re: Inferno
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Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
#1 - 2012-05-25 21:54:37 UTC
CSM has stated that there is no way that the game's pre-Inferno inventory system can be re-introduced, because of the coding issues.

I call bullshit on that one.
Surely CCP saved a pre-inferno complete build of the Eve code.

So my poll question.

Would you:

a. Prefer CCP to retain the existing code, and have CCP try to fix it on the fly.

b. Have CCP rollback to pre-Inferno. This may include a worst case scenario of all players having to wipe their Eve folders clean, and having to download a 5 Gig set of files and do a complete rebuild of the game on your computers. Clearly, this would mean the loss of all features of Inferno, including the UI.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-25 21:56:51 UTC
Tessla Coil wrote:
CSM has stated that there is no way that the game's pre-Inferno inventory system can be re-introduced, because of the coding issues.

I call bullshit on that one.
Surely CCP saved a pre-inferno complete build of the Eve code.

So my poll question.

Would you:

a. Prefer CCP to retain the existing code, and have CCP try to fix it on the fly.

b. Have CCP rollback to pre-Inferno. This may include a worst case scenario of all players having to wipe their Eve folders clean, and having to download a 5 Gig set of files and do a complete rebuild of the game on your computers. Clearly, this would mean the loss of all features of Inferno, including the UI.


You are wasting your time and your not paying attention.

CSM has nothing to do with it.....they are a representive body of players...period..no special access...no powers....very little influence.

It's CCP who said that they are not going back.

They did NOT say they can't go back.

Making an opinion poll is like starting a flame...and I ought to report you for inciting such a thing.

Go simmer down or go yell in feedback thread where this belongs.


We don't need "yet an another inventory whine thread" WRONG or RIGHT. (And yes I agree its messed up but for cryin out loud...knock it off people)

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Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
#3 - 2012-05-25 22:02:17 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Tessla Coil wrote:
CSM has stated that there is no way that the game's pre-Inferno inventory system can be re-introduced, because of the coding issues.

I call bullshit on that one.
Surely CCP saved a pre-inferno complete build of the Eve code.

So my poll question.

Would you:

a. Prefer CCP to retain the existing code, and have CCP try to fix it on the fly.

b. Have CCP rollback to pre-Inferno. This may include a worst case scenario of all players having to wipe their Eve folders clean, and having to download a 5 Gig set of files and do a complete rebuild of the game on your computers. Clearly, this would mean the loss of all features of Inferno, including the UI.


You are wasting your time and your not paying attention.

CSM has nothing to do with it.....they are a representive body of players...period..no special access...no powers....very little influence.

It's CCP who said that they are not going back.

They did NOT say they can't go back.

Making an opinion poll is like starting a flame...and I ought to report you for inciting such a thing.

Go simmer down or go yell in feedback thread where this belongs.


We don't need "yet an another inventory whine thread" WRONG or RIGHT. (And yes I agree its messed up but for cryin out loud...knock it off people)


I see, so as an analogy, if the people hold a plebiscite, the elected representatives just ignore the results because the government is too powerful, and will just ignore the elected representatives?

If so, in the world of Eve, if the players masses speak loudly about an idea, in this case a complete rollback, is it not the CSM's mandate to present the results to CCP?
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#4 - 2012-05-25 22:12:46 UTC
Oh for f*ck sake.

Give it a rest.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-25 22:24:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Tessla Coil wrote:
I see, so as an analogy, if the people hold a plebiscite, the elected representatives just ignore the results because the government is too powerful, and will just ignore the elected representatives?

If so, in the world of Eve, if the players masses speak loudly about an idea, in this case a complete rollback, is it not the CSM's mandate to present the results to CCP?


Ok if you want to go ahead and make 100 threads about the same damn problem then go right on ahead.

Don't you think the CSM would have already snapped their fingers and reversed everything?

Oh hell why not CCP at that rate.

Surely you could use your head eh?

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-26 00:30:21 UTC
One more can't hurt. +1
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#7 - 2012-05-26 03:52:49 UTC
I don't see why all the hate for the new system. Yes it has issues, and those can be fixed. But it isn't the end of the world.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-26 04:49:48 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
I don't see why all the hate for the new system. Yes it has issues, and those can be fixed. But it isn't the end of the world.


No, those cannot be fixed. Revert to the old inventory.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-26 04:52:43 UTC
Revert. Bandwith is free, my time mucking about because CCP can't code for crap is not.
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-05-26 09:33:03 UTC
B

If this inventory nightmare purged from eve i dont care the other changes, such as ugly amarrian ship changes, frigate cosmetics etc.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#11 - 2012-05-26 11:43:55 UTC
The old system was crap. The new system is crap in differant ways, but the new system is crap in ways that can be fixed.

If you dont like change, play an MMO where the developers create it, asign a skeleton crew and then abondon it.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-27 08:47:41 UTC
Tessla Coil wrote:

Surely CCP saved a pre-inferno complete build of the Eve code.


Hah... No.

You still haven't learned anything about how they do things have you? Even after the ship-spinning removal. CCP Don't keep old code, they save over it..

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Pflepsen
Conquering Darkness
#13 - 2012-06-11 20:47:23 UTC
The new inventory system is an impossible to use piece of ****! 5 years of playing EVE and have never been so pissed off at the STUPID ASSHOLES who came up with this garbage! Get your programers back in the shop and REMOVE EVERYTHING that was changed to the inventory system! LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS! REMOVE IT NOW!!!!!!
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
#14 - 2012-06-11 21:31:39 UTC
Wow.... Just wow.

I thought the update was a good step forward. Yes there are some issues ( lots of mouse macros are screwed ) but they can be fixed.

I imagine the old code was very deeply rooted and could not be changed with out major problems in the entire game. It sounds like the new one allows CCP to make alterations without bringing the game to a grinding halt.

My only complaint, make player controlled folders so we don't have to build/buy station warehouses to keep sanity.