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prophecy t1 pve fit?
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Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-23 23:01:18 UTC
Hi all

Just wondering, any decent t1 prophecy fits out there? just wanting to doodle into Amarr PvE, and to decide if i want to work my way up through the battleships.

now, i dont need the comments Uh get a tengu, or uuuh drakes run l3s soo much better uuuh armarr are **** for running missions derp derp. im just looking for a good T1 prophecy fit. :)


Many thanks!
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-05-23 23:03:56 UTC
Nogginz wrote:
Hi all

Just wondering, any decent t1 prophecy fits out there? just wanting to doodle into Amarr PvE, and to decide if i want to work my way up through the battleships.

now, i dont need the comments Uh get a tengu, or uuuh drakes run l3s soo much better uuuh armarr are **** for running missions derp derp. im just looking for a good T1 prophecy fit. :)


Many thanks!






just on a side note, i'm also wanting just a proph fit due to the fact it looks soo bad ass with them new cylon eyes.
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2012-05-23 23:11:57 UTC
Something along these lines.

[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-23 23:14:21 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Something along these lines.

[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5



so, if i were to get the meta 4 versions of each ( i can get some T2 stuff)would that be cool?
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-05-23 23:15:33 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Something along these lines.

[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5

Yeah, something like that. It has a lot of caveats, though:

  • Use against Sanshas only. Will have crappy damage against all other pirates except Blood Raiders, and those guys neut you too hard.
  • Slow as hell.
  • Crappy damage overall compared to other battlecruisers.


I agree that the Prophecy looks sweet, but it's just not that great for actually shooting things. It's better at being a brick.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-23 23:18:07 UTC

[/quote]
Yeah, something like that. It has a lot of caveats, though:

  • Use against Sanshas only. Will have crappy damage against all other pirates except Blood Raiders, and those guys neut you too hard.
  • Slow as hell.
  • Crappy damage overall compared to other battlecruisers.


I agree that the Prophecy looks sweet, but it's just not that great for actually shooting things. It's better at being a brick.[/quote]



well, considering i just want to doodle in it, i'd rather survive-ability for now, im not looking for a gank ship, something i can chill in, and do at a slow pace
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2012-05-23 23:20:56 UTC
Nogginz wrote:

so, if i were to get the meta 4 versions of each ( i can get some T2 stuff)would that be cool?

Scorch is pretty much a requirement for that fit.

Without you'll probably need beams. I haven't PvE'd with medium beams so. Ugh
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#8 - 2012-05-24 00:15:29 UTC
Try this fit - downgrade to T1 modules as needed:

[Prophecy, M's Prophecy copy 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II

10MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Cap Recharger II

425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Lili Lu
#9 - 2012-05-24 00:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
FT has the right direction for you. It's part of got me to make Lili train Minmatar as her second race of ships. The past and current prophecy gets no damage bonus to lasers. Only the meh cap reduction bonus. No matter, you can fit it with projectiles and it becomes your go to boat to take into level 3 Gurista, Angel, and EOM missions (until you train a second race of ships, which every character should do).

I differ with FT on the guns though. Even though the grid gets tight I usually fit mine with 650s for missions. It's just nice to have range as an option. I have never liked ac or pulse in missions for that reason.

For missions against sansha, blood raiders and rogue drones use a Harbinger. It actually slices through them better than any other tech I boat option. And that would be a meta 4 beam fit Harbinger, again because range is so often an advantage you can use in missions. Scorch is great, but I'd still rather do most missions with beams tbh especially with heavy TD from the sansha rats.
Salo Aldeland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-05-24 00:56:12 UTC
I did all my Amarr L3's in a T1 Prophecy with Heavy Beams, I think. Stable cap, with hardeners for Sansha / BR.


[Prophecy, New Setup 1]
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
N-Type EM Hardener I
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Extruded Heat Sink I
Extruded Heat Sink I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array
Optical Tracking Computer I

Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

I had discovered the ability to juggle lenses and tracking scripts to adjust as targets moved through the different ranges. Used Radio, Standard and Multifrequency lenses. Having no prop mod was slow and a bit annoying on missions with widely spaced gates, but the beams had enough reach I never had to approach an enemy to start shooting it. By that time my drones skills were good enough to deal with close orbiting frigates, but not all that well. I think I eventually lost the ship due to a scramming frigate my drones just couldn't kill in time, so beware of that. But having the long range guns was a treat after doing L2's in a pulse fit Maller.
Kaikka Carel
Ziea
#11 - 2012-05-24 03:05:30 UTC
Well why not Harbinger?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-05-24 03:16:06 UTC
Kaikka Carel wrote:
Well why not Harbinger?


Prophecy is sexy, Harby is pugly.Smile
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#13 - 2012-05-24 06:46:51 UTC
Yeah you want beams cause you need the range on Scorch or you'll be burning right up to everything you want to kill which is a huge waste of time, and yes, meta versions of the weapons will work but you should at least have a full t2 armor tank for battlecruisers.

Also, if you don't care that much about the looks, the Harb is far better for missions because of damage bonus and still enough tank for L3s.
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-25 19:21:24 UTC
Cheers for all the replys so far, and nice to see an actual T1 fit! :D i'll give it a go later on today.


on cross training, ect, i'm pretty much trained up for everything but Amarr, hence T1 fittings ect ect, but i would of never of guessed putting mimmy guns on a amarr ship! Roll


P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-25 19:23:08 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
you should at least have a full t2 armor tank for battlecruisers.




aye, that's bog standard really, with any ship but, it's just a taster :P
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#16 - 2012-05-25 19:23:29 UTC
Nogginz wrote:
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.

I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-25 19:27:07 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Nogginz wrote:
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.

I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.




aye, sub par, but one of the best looking amarr ships due to the new overhaul.
Karmu Ivanostrov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-25 19:28:03 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Nogginz wrote:
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.

I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.


And Ferox and Cyclone!
Alara IonStorm
#19 - 2012-05-25 19:29:10 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Nogginz wrote:
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.

I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.

I use a Pulse Laser Scorch Prophecy for small gang stuff with 3 Heatsinks. 60kEHP and a bit above average Cruiser DPS but it hits out good and you're the last ship to be shot at. Not good but gimicky.

I can't wait for it to get the Punisher style damage bonus.
Nogginz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-25 19:30:52 UTC
Karmu Ivanostrov wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Nogginz wrote:
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships Shocked i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now.

I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.


And Ferox and Cyclone!





on the subject of ferox, if you happen to be out of armour ships, fit a ferox up for armour and you'll be amazed at the results. many people in my corp/alliance worship the armour tanked sniper ferox.
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