Intergalactic Summit

It takes an hour to dismantle a customs office with the forces we usually bring to bare on it. This is after a significant amount of set up, and communication with the customs office in question. It all proceeds in a way that is -even legal by CONCORD's rules-, not that we give a damn if it were. Just saying, my security status drops drastically when I destroy a ship in defense of my home, but taking down a POCO seems perfectly okay. Your masters rules, not ours.

An hour to take it down entirely. A half hour to go through the shields, during which the population is given plenty of warning and leeway to escape before any actual structural damage takes place. We even aid in the evacuation if it is requested, because we have no desire to destroy lives unnecessarily.

You want proof? I won't offer any. Neither do you have any proof that what I am saying is in any way a lie, and it's not usually up to the accused to offer that proof, anyways. Don't be a fool, N'Maro.

Once the shield is down, the Interbus POCO is destroyed, and one of our own is put up. TSF installations work in approximation with Nation methods, but we hardly 'control the planet'. Other capsuleers are free to put up colonies of their own, working in their own methods. We just control the tax rates. We provide incentives for our allies to use these particular planets, in the form of lowered taxes, which in turn affords us political considerations. Those who have fought with us know that we fight as fiercly for our friends as we do for ourselves, and we make relatively few demands aside from accomidation of our way of life.

That is our big, nasty, dirty secret, N'Maro! You have squeezed it out of me.

It might just be that your definition of 'rescue' doesn't harmonize with the definition the rest of humanity - as diverse as their opinions usually are - have made.

1) Nation didn't do the betraying? Im not sure where you are getting your information, but it was the other empires, some of whom there were peaceful relationships with, who did the betraying.

2) Customs offices have ships, constantly going in and out of them. We broadcast our intentions, as well as our ROE that prevents us from firing on those ships. We then dismantle the Custom's Office.

Are you now going to declare that every single corporation that has ever put up their own Custom's Office is guilty of murder? I can assure you that is not the case, and you are going to be casting a very wide net, including your own allies.

3) You want to know the end game of Nation? The survival of intelligent life past the heat death of the universe. Do you think we want total domination of all the peoples and races of new eden? That would be foolish. We want safety for our people, and so far your actions have necessitated a violent response to secure that.

We can't show you those lives because once we secured their escape from the customs office, we let them go. We could let you talk to the ones who worked on the office we put up, but you wouldn't believe them anyways because you are too blinded by your predjudice to believe them.

It certaintly is the current game plan. You burned Nation to the ground once, showing us that you can't be trusted to let us live our way of life in peace. The first move was made by you, and Nation's current gameplan is to ensure you can't hurt it anymore.

The fact that you have such a hard time understanding this absolutely confounds me, as does the fact that you think this is a permanent state of affairs.

Arek'Jellan is under assault because of its involvement with Project Catapult. You may also recall that one of the foundation's top researchers was, previous to that, working WITH Arek'Jellan in the belief that it was going to help the scientific understanding of all of New Eden.

Then it turned out to be just another attempt to research a way to beat Nation, and he stopped, and Nation decided that Arek'Jellan had to be burned to the ground as a military threat.

In short, show us that if we stopped, and just lived within our space, and did our experiments on ourselves in peace, and generally just existed in our own way with our own people, that you would leave us alone, and we will be happy to scale back. We are not war mongerers. We want peace in New Eden, and we want there to be life in New Eden until past the natural end of all things. Help us with this, and we will help you.

Try to stop us, and we will burn your empires to the ground as you did to ours.

113.07.30 03:25:13 Slave Endoma01: Arek'Jaalan will burn with the rest of New Eden!







I'm relatively sure I'm not the only one having difficulties reconciling the radically conflicting views of your own internal dialogue.

Let me put it simply, Ollie.

We believe we have the right to defend ourselves against aggression. We have been shown that the other empires will be aggressive to us, if given the chance. This means the logical and rational choice is to hit first, until you are weakened sufficiently in comparison with Nation, that we no longer need to worry about you.

In addition, you burned Nation to the ground once. What exactly did you -think- was going to happen when we pulled ourselves together? This is why you left death squads behind in Stain in order to route out any Nation influence you saw arising.

Thankfully, as Kat pointed out, we don't -need- Stain anymore. We have nearly infinite systems available to us, which means that all we have to do with the incursions is keep you distracted, while we grow stronger and stronger with each passing day.

Please thank your incursion runners for intentionally drawing out the length of incursions in order to farm them for CONCORD's ISK, by the way.

You know Thessalonia, I used to think you were a pretty reasonable lad. I'm rapidly losing faith in you, it seems that instead of neutralizing the "negative aspects of humanity" in you, they've simply neutralized your ability to think clearly.

"We have the right to defend ourselves against aggression." It is not defense when you strike preemptively, it's preemptive attack.

Secondly, you keep talking about how Nation was burned to the ground once before, did you ever stop to consider why that actually is or do you just like hiding behind the victim shield? Kuvakei lied horridly to the people that believed his messianic message, when the truth of his inhumane experiments was revealed, the majority of Nation supporters fled. Do you know why? Because they could still think for themselves and see the inhumanity and immorality for what they were.

Then, instead of ceasing his experimentation, Kuvakei escalated his experimentation and steeled his defenses for war. For all of the "evolution" he supposedly breeds, he made the worst possible tactical decision and denied any attempt at peaceful resolution. Not because he believed he was bettering humanity but because it was his dream and his empire.

Your master is not a philanthropist, he is not a messiah, he is not a savior. He is madman bent upon executing his own will at everyone else's expense.

There is nothing benevolent or self-preserving in Nation's actions. We are a representation of everything Nation seeks to neutralize, we are everything standing in your master's way. Stop trying to apologize for him.

So you've come back for revenge, exactly as we have been telling you.

You're not the victim anymore.

I couldn't have said it better myself, thank you for that.