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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#61 - 2012-05-25 15:42:46 UTC
When I look at how social media is manipulated to shape public opinion, and see threads like this, with no real competition for this MMO, I wonder if some people come in here to practice for their real jobs working for the government or something. Do they go to their boss and say "look, I totally created a lie that looks like truth! Can I get a promotion?"

The game is not bleeding players. Right now college semesters are ending, school is almost out, better weather is coming in, and this is not a peak time for being inside gaming.

Unless there is another MMO like this one waiting in the wings, and it's success requires this game to fail first, then I have no reason to think that the trolls around here have anything other than malice or personal gain in mind. It seems like every "eve is going out" is worded the same, as if the trolls all went to the same school or come from the same direction.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#62 - 2012-05-25 15:50:20 UTC
same time every summer with out fail, the same old eve is dying threads, op if you don't like the game then unsub its as simple as that, others who are enjoying the game would rather not have to sift through your threads.
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#63 - 2012-05-25 15:55:48 UTC
It could also be the Montreal riots.

For my part, my wife gave me a new "to do" list.

You know the saying, what the wife wants, god wants!
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#64 - 2012-05-25 16:06:41 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
CCP WAS given the warning....CCP is A corporation, not corporations. CCP WERE given a warning - though this new fashion in subject verb disagreement is a rage sweeping England, it's grammatically incorrect.

If you want plural you'd say "The members of CCP are"

If you say "CCP" then you have to say "is" cause it's singular...ONE corporation.

It's like Manchester United. That's not plural either. It's A team. It's not TEAMS. Manchester United IS. The playerS of Manchester United ARE.

And I thought U.S. schools sucked.


JA WOHL MEIN GRAMMARFUHRER!

**Vherokior **

Aerich e'Kieron
Peace.Keepers
Federation Front Line
#65 - 2012-05-25 16:09:39 UTC
^ I am laughing. So hard..
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2012-05-25 16:12:45 UTC
I have lost some 30 to 50% of activity in my corp in the last couple of weeks. GUESS WHY?!!

IT ISNT BECAUSE OF INFERNO, ITS BECAUSE IT IS REALLY SUNNY AND ALSO D3 HAS BEEN RELEASED ALONG WITH OTHER GAMES!

Really, dont be such dramatic idiots. Really dont.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

Hedion's oracle
Naari LLC
#67 - 2012-05-25 16:20:05 UTC
Confirming Eve has been dead for almost 10 years. Cool

Error: Working As intended

Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#68 - 2012-05-25 16:20:32 UTC
I just wanted to say if you really wanted to vote with your wallets, you'd pay by the month. As it stands, alot of you suckers are locked in for a long time. P

So close...

Leetha Layne
#69 - 2012-05-25 16:22:36 UTC
" Riveting..."

"A Must read!..."

"Could not put it down!"
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#70 - 2012-05-25 16:22:49 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
I have lost some 30 to 50% of activity in my corp in the last couple of weeks. GUESS WHY?!!

IT ISNT BECAUSE OF INFERNO, ITS BECAUSE IT IS REALLY SUNNY AND ALSO D3 HAS BEEN RELEASED ALONG WITH OTHER GAMES!

Really, dont be such dramatic idiots. Really dont.



It also might be because you're in FA . Just saying.


CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Dapud
#71 - 2012-05-25 16:23:11 UTC
As a pretty old game, CCP is already fighting an uphill battle. It's not one they couldn't have won but they would have needed to revolutionized the game in some way. If that horrible expansion last summer (Incarna) had been full functioning WiS that could have done it. But we're not on that path now. The current path is Dust Roll and a "War Expansion" (I think this expansion was about war?) it's dry, it's boring, it's old, it's not fresh or fun or new or interesting at all. Those things actually describe EVE as a whole right now.

What this expansion meant to me in real game play terms: I now get more mails in my inbox saying an ally is in a war which I don't read. So to me it's like the Summer Spam Expansion

Is that really your brilliant plan to make money?

How can EVE hope to compete in 2012, honestly. I'm convinced that almost all EVE players who spend $ on this game, just don't know what else is out there. It's not just that CCP is too stupid and inept to actually do something huge which would save the game, is that it comes off as if they don't care.... Thanks for the new inventory??? BTW? Nice job at doing something I could care so little about that if you asked me "What would you change in this game" "The inventory" wouldn't possibly even come to mind.

Maldred
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-05-25 16:31:34 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
CCP WAS given the warning....CCP is A corporation, not corporations. CCP WERE given a warning - though this new fashion in subject verb disagreement is a rage sweeping England, it's grammatically incorrect.

If you want plural you'd say "The members of CCP are"

If you say "CCP" then you have to say "is" cause it's singular...ONE corporation.

It's like Manchester United. That's not plural either. It's A team. It's not TEAMS. Manchester United IS. The playerS of Manchester United ARE.

And I thought U.S. schools sucked.


Of course by 'new fashion ... rage sweeping England' you actually mean 'standard usage since there has been anything called English'

Also this is a British thing. Us Yanks changed to singular preference for organizations a long time ago. You know, those changes that Brits like to cite to argue that we don't speak 'real' English.

But you should ignore actual facts. It's pretty hard to be an armchair grammarian when actual facts get involved.
Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-05-25 16:33:42 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
Present CCP with real ideas and facts and leave petty squabbles behind, CCP is a real corporation with employees and families who need stability, so don’t unsubscribe move forward, breathe life back into New Eden.


CCP are not a charity. If they need families and stability they just have to not release trash.

Unsubbing is the only vote that players may use to express their opinion.


This! ^^^

You failed to target nothing! ≡v≡ online ... (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#74 - 2012-05-25 16:36:36 UTC
It's this time a year, CCP releases another bullshit expansion to lure us off the PC so we can go out and enjoy the sun and beautiful ladies everywhere. Unfortunately someone should tell them these amarrian robes ain't the best when you're working a tan. Sad

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#75 - 2012-05-25 16:37:35 UTC
Ituhata Saken wrote:
I just wanted to say if you really wanted to vote with your wallets, you'd pay by the month. As it stands, alot of you suckers are locked in for a long time. P


That's my problem alright. Keep being stupid enough to pre-pay for long periods, le sigh. P

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#76 - 2012-05-25 16:56:47 UTC
Ban Hammers are raining down folks.

My other alt got banned for posting Monty Python Spam about the Spam Sketch in the FAKE SPAM THREAD.

Pathetic CCP. Such priorities in choosing who to ban and for why.


Now they start in on those who multi-posted about these UI Issues I guess.

First they ignore you...then THEY start 3 different GM threads about the issue to Divide and Conquer. Then they ban you.

The way the wind blows now is Obvious Bear

***

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#77 - 2012-05-25 17:02:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
This is another eve is dying because of highsec not being buffed more thread?
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
The recent drop in carebears has impacted in my high sec region, the lack of these players has lead to a drop in PVP and now the new expansion could have put the last nail in the coffin ,

I love what you're implying about "PVP"ing with "carebears".

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-05-25 17:18:16 UTC
Tessla Coil wrote:
I have witnessed multiple changes to the games by a lead developer who was ex-goon, and may still be goon, that have had huge negative impact on high sec players, all of which (by pure coincidence I am sure) align perfectly with the desires of the most fervent null sec zealots to wipe out high sec.


Could you be more specific as to which changes you have seen occur that are intended to wipe out high sec?

Did these changes take place during the years of neglect of CCP's incarna development phase, or was it during the widely acclaimed Crucible expansion?

Not Amused Responsible wrote:
This is a loss that should have been avoided, another Eve vet leaving but don't worry people because Diablo 3 is here!, just to let you know, i lookforward to the day you return to Eve.


I've only ragequit Eve like, 4 times since 2005. He'll probably be back. In the meantime he was a terrible publord and nothing of value was lost.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-05-25 17:33:23 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
The recent drop in carebears has impacted in my high sec region, the lack of these players has lead to a drop in PVP and now the new expansion could have put the last nail in the coffin , market movement has dropped of massively and its mostly newbies purchasing ships on the market.

Players spin ships, run missions, read forums and hope that some of their questions get answered.
CCP are losing the battle and maybe now it’s out of their control, new player base is unaware of issues and existing players have lost their passion, it’s not all bad, there has been some good changes, but I’m not sure it’s enough, CCP were given the warning signs but perhaps because they are a peaceful race didn’t heed them.

To all the players in New Eden, I salute you and I hope that you continue to play through these tough times and maybe in a week or two New Eden will return to its forma glory. Present CCP with real ideas and facts and leave petty squabbles behind, CCP is a real corporation with employees and families who need stability, so don’t unsubscribe move forward, breathe life back into New Eden.



Thing is that this new inventory killed all will to play when it's to more than just drag/drop a pair of cans at station.

POS/JB's managing in null is probably giving some enough will to leave completely, industry became a nightmare and so on.

Add the unfunny ganking theme that the game became+crappy wardecs, what does this game as to offer better then a simple free fps? -nothing, and you have to pay for this.

Until this inventory stuff is completely settled/revamp/improved/optional whatever, I guess people will prefer doing something else like sunshine and lollipops in front of a fresh beer.

brb

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#80 - 2012-05-25 17:40:03 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Thing is that this new inventory killed all will to play when it's to more than just drag/drop a pair of cans at station.

POS/JB's managing in null is probably giving some enough will to leave completely, industry became a nightmare and so on.

Add the unfunny ganking theme that the game became+crappy wardecs, what does this game as to offer better then a simple free fps? -nothing, and you have to pay for this.

Until this inventory stuff is completely settled/revamp/improved/optional whatever, I guess people will prefer doing something else like sunshine and lollipops in front of a fresh beer.

Som of us don't drink, I don't think you need to laugh at their lifestyle. What's next? Salad rather than a steak jokes?

Looking at all the guns in a POS was funny. I hope our logistics people don't have too much trouble with fueling the POSes and doing the tech magic.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?