Warfare & Tactics

I have been having a blast. I plexed before to get fights, but the activity has increased. I ran missions occasionally before, but now I don't have to. Considering re-rigging and re-fitting my Ishtar...

And I disagree about plexes taking the strategy out of it. I think there is far more. It forces you to make due with a limited set of tools, and not just the 'Jesus Blob' or 'Put a cyno on every ship' paradigm. Plexes make ships like blaster ships, griffins, Keres, Celestis, caracals, etc useful. And you can still nano fleet and armor fleet and use logi, etc. more than one fight has come down to the attackers charging in and trying to push while the defenders are trying to run the last 30 seconds off of the button.

Jesus blob and cyno bait fleets still fight outside just like they did before, but the plexes add a whole new dimension. I'm loving it.

I love the patch, its keeping me busy (more so on militia admin) trying to get caught up from spending 4 18 hour day sitting on eve.

The new patch has so many small scale fights its unbelievable. I am trying to test new ship types that allow for the pelxing of the lp (farming) but also allow you to fight instead of run.

Example I was flying the malediction and can speed tank majors and mediums. I cant get into the minors (problem) bt the biggest problem is if something were to come at my I have to fly off. So striking a new balance is important. Fight and speed.

I disagree with who gets in the pelx first wins. It is that way now, yes however tactics need to be adjusted to manage this.

For example Nexx and his dang 110k cormorant. Well how do you combat that. Damps. We will be seeing lots of new strategies.

The other thing is if you are taking systems that you do not own you will have to coordinate small minor fleets with the other two. It will make for interesting fights.

The thing I like that IMO makes this work, is people do not want to share their LP from the plexes with others. So you get more 2s and 3s out in the areas spreading people out.

I love it.

CORMI O DOOM!

This expansion has definitely increased the amount pvp and plexing. I would do plexing before the patch - allot of it. However, I would just use the plexes to get pvp and not really run the timer.

I did get to participate in some of the fights in and around kam and Kourm that happened before the changes took effect. It was allot of fun but I really hope we don't just end up with the old "blob kourm" is the only pvp to be had mechanic. I used to like to pvp in the back waters like in frerstorn etc. Now I would be easily camped in there via the hoff cooridor so I don’t go there anymore. Looking at the killboard its pretty clear there is precious little pvp more than 2 jumps outside kourm.

However I also missed allot of the fun in kam and kourm because I had to move tons of stuff out of the war zone (including drugs that can't be contracted) and still do. It was stuff I had spent a good amount of time planting there throughout the zone so I could get more pvp. Having to spend time undoing this work really leaves a bitter taste.

And I am not done yet. I still have allot more stuff to move around and *allot* more logistics to do to get ships into the new base. This sort of shuffling work makes me dread signing on the game. Being a casual player I know I will never base out of the faction war zone again. Not unless ccp removes this no docking rule and gives some assurance they won’t implement it again.

Moreover fighting in plexes is a real pain when you can't repair rat damage except by going a few jumps out and coming back. (or using alts. yes there are options but none of them are good) The enemy warps in you have to warp out because half your tank is gone. The enemy sees you leave local assumes you are gone for good and by the time you come back he is gone too.

There is lots of new and newb blood. I don't think I have killed this many t1 fit ships in pvp ever. It has been described as a turkey shoot.

As far as the 16x multiplier yes it makes the losing sides lp pretty much worthless. But so long as there is no lp for defensive plexing I think the tides may turn.

So I don't mind it too much and I would be willing to wait to see what happens here - if they would undue the no docking rule.

But really even if they undue the no docking rule there would still not be enough to balance things out without help from a bigger alliance. If nothing else changes I think the losing side is stuck having to negotiate with a large alliances to bail them out, or just hope one decides to turn the tides for their militia for the lulz. (although I think caldari may be able to change the tides for other reasons and once/if they do gallente will basically be in the same boat)

The no docking rule is a real detriment to being able to get pvp frequently. It forces people to take more time with every reship and take more time with logistic crap. It's just a bad idea that was tacked on to what was otherwise well thought out changes. Perhaps it was the shock ccp needed to get people to do plexing again. But it’s no longer anything but a detriment to pvp.

Explain

QCATS, the all time leading private corporation in FW kills, has quadrupled its daily number of kills since the patch. We've had no problems fighting 4 jumps into enemy territory. It seems the increase in pew vastly outweighs the costs in reshipping (so far).

How do you get 4 for 10k lp. I know the ship.....

Seems to me that datacore market manipulation by the reduced LP faction would be the way to go. Added bonus if you have ties with invention. But that is just a theory. vOv

Yeah right. All amarr are just whiners. That explains why they are less keen on this expansion than the other militias.

This will work if all the people with research agents are dumb and don't have their research alts getting the amarr datacores. How long do you think that will last?