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Bitter Sea Trading - An advanced management tool aimed at market and industry.
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Faith O'Siras
Silhouette.
#181 - 2012-05-23 19:35:31 UTC
Interesting tool with interesting features. Will register and check it out. Big smile
Combre Vivo
Nederlandsche Handel-Maatschappij
#182 - 2012-05-24 04:48:17 UTC
Stil not able to log in, when I enter my username, password and press login, it just jumps back to the apps.bitterseatrading.com/login screen.

Odd, really liked this app. Have sent an email a few days ago but havent received anything back.
Combre Vivo
Nederlandsche Handel-Maatschappij
#183 - 2012-05-25 06:40:15 UTC
Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#184 - 2012-05-25 06:54:29 UTC
Combre Vivo wrote:
Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?



In case this is not evident enough: Kouryusei is a scammer who every year pretends to create a different, popular application.
At the same time he always sets up a bond, which he will scam.

One year later he will pop up again, say he paid back investors (most are classed as "private investor" so you cannot check they have really been paid) and will start a new popular application and then another bond scam.

If I were you I would not hold many hopes in this app. Till the next year, in time for the next scam of course!
Combre Vivo
Nederlandsche Handel-Maatschappij
#185 - 2012-05-25 07:24:34 UTC
Well that pretty much sucked cause I really liekd this. Tracking my progress while at work etc. Well back to productivity!
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#186 - 2012-05-25 09:50:00 UTC
Combre Vivo wrote:
Well that pretty much sucked cause I really liekd this. Tracking my progress while at work etc. Well back to productivity!


Actually, all you guys who registered on the website, I suggest you immediately change your data, because he's probably using your API keys to spy on your orders and business.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#187 - 2012-05-25 12:12:02 UTC
Alaya Carrier wrote:
Combre Vivo wrote:
Well that pretty much sucked cause I really liekd this. Tracking my progress while at work etc. Well back to productivity!


Actually, all you guys who registered on the website, I suggest you immediately change your data, because he's probably using your API keys to spy on your orders and business.

oh noes, my business secrets!

Your shocking revelation comes down to the assumption that his users are morons who didn't know what they did when handing over the API keys - I think if they weren't cool with him having their data they would never have signed up for the webapp to start with.

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Kouryusei
Keizai Inc
#188 - 2012-06-26 14:24:55 UTC
Alaya Carrier wrote:
Combre Vivo wrote:
Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?



In case this is not evident enough: Kouryusei is a scammer who every year pretends to create a different, popular application.
At the same time he always sets up a bond, which he will scam.

One year later he will pop up again, say he paid back investors (most are classed as "private investor" so you cannot check they have really been paid) and will start a new popular application and then another bond scam.

If I were you I would not hold many hopes in this app. Till the next year, in time for the next scam of course!


Every year? That's news to me. I've left this game once and returned once. It's okay that your ability to count simple numbers is obviously lacking.

It's a well known fact that I've been dealing with my health lately, and if you're referring to my investors, you mean all 2 of them? Only one of which is private?

Did I run over your dog or something?

Combre Vivo wrote:

Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?


There actually is! A rather extensive rewrite.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#189 - 2012-06-26 16:33:46 UTC
I can't recall if your tool had this feature or not, so I'm going to suggest it.

Implement a watch list. Basically, let me put together a list of items which I would like to be selling, and have the watch list compare my sell orders on the market to that list and notify me if I am no longer selling the item, so that I know and can put them back up.

This will be useful to me if CCP gives me my stuff back, and it is, I think, a useful feature anyway.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Vaerah Vain
#190 - 2012-06-26 16:46:14 UTC
Kouryusei wrote:

It's a well known fact that I've been dealing with my health lately, and if you're referring to my investors, you mean all 2 of them? Only one of which is private?


Combre Vivo wrote:

Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?


There actually is! A rather extensive rewrite.



May I kindly inquire about the status of my ISK?
If you can't trade or something I am fine getting it back as is, I need the cash for stuff I need to buy.
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#191 - 2012-06-26 17:01:10 UTC
Kouryusei wrote:
Every year? That's news to me. I've left this game once and returned once. It's okay that your ability to count simple numbers is obviously lacking.

It's a well known fact that I've been dealing with my health lately, and if you're referring to my investors, you mean all 2 of them? Only one of which is private?

Did I run over your dog or something?


But please.

You find the time to keep developing an application, to post on the forums but not to log in 2 minutes and honor your debts.

Like the last year.

Prove me wrong.
Tom Hagen
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#192 - 2012-06-27 05:47:12 UTC
I think it is odd, I have seen some complaints and people asking whats happening with their ISK or other issues.
Kouryusei usually answer that he will log in and fix this or that, and always an excuse for not doing it before or some kind of hindrance for not doing it when he said he would.
But I haven't seen a single confirmation that the problems were resolved..
Is there anyone out there who have some positive feedback on this guy?

I don't know **** about his application since I don't use any.
But I see in this thread talk about username, and as such I presume there is a password also.
Unfortunately a lot of people tend to reuse their password and username on several places.
I hope for your own sake you haven't done this, but otherwise this application would be a nice asset for a dubious character to get his hands on your account...
Just thinking out aloud hear, don't mind me Smile
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#193 - 2012-06-27 07:42:11 UTC
Tom Hagen wrote:
I think it is odd, I have seen some complaints and people asking whats happening with their ISK or other issues.
Kouryusei usually answer that he will log in and fix this or that, and always an excuse for not doing it before or some kind of hindrance for not doing it when he said he would.
But I haven't seen a single confirmation that the problems were resolved..
Is there anyone out there who have some positive feedback on this guy?

I don't know **** about his application since I don't use any.
But I see in this thread talk about username, and as such I presume there is a password also.
Unfortunately a lot of people tend to reuse their password and username on several places.
I hope for your own sake you haven't done this, but otherwise this application would be a nice asset for a dubious character to get his hands on your account...
Just thinking out aloud hear, don't mind me Smile


No, you are right.

I am all sorry if he really has his illness and whatever but the way he's handling this stuff is completely unacceptable and opaque.

As I said, it'd take all of 5 seconds to log in and refund the investors, certainly less effort than keeping trying posting excuses and losing credibility in the process.
Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#194 - 2012-06-27 21:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregory Brunswick
So what's the status on eveprofit.com?

While we're all talking about it, does this guy have access to my username and password on the site?
Eiroze
Keizai Inc
#195 - 2012-06-28 10:41:49 UTC
Gregory Brunswick wrote:
So what's the status on eveprofit.com?

While we're all talking about it, does this guy have access to my username and password on the site?


Currently trying to recover the database as it was not part of my normal backup procedures when a node failed.

On BST, I do not have access to a human readable form of your password, only your username (which is true of any site that you login to). I do not know what the case is with Eve Profit as I've not taken a look at the user table, but I expect it's the same. For the love of God though, don't use the same password that you use elsewhere, that's just poor security.

If you give me your username, I'll happily wipe you from either database if you're so concerned. BST was originally built as a tool for me to use (and then released to the public), so I'll continue to use the new version once it's up, you don't have to. If you are not comfortable with using a version of Eve Profit hosted by me, then feel free to use your own local version.
Eiroze
Keizai Inc
#196 - 2012-06-28 10:46:53 UTC
Alaya Carrier wrote:
Tom Hagen wrote:
I think it is odd, I have seen some complaints and people asking whats happening with their ISK or other issues.
Kouryusei usually answer that he will log in and fix this or that, and always an excuse for not doing it before or some kind of hindrance for not doing it when he said he would.
But I haven't seen a single confirmation that the problems were resolved..
Is there anyone out there who have some positive feedback on this guy?

I don't know **** about his application since I don't use any.
But I see in this thread talk about username, and as such I presume there is a password also.
Unfortunately a lot of people tend to reuse their password and username on several places.
I hope for your own sake you haven't done this, but otherwise this application would be a nice asset for a dubious character to get his hands on your account...
Just thinking out aloud hear, don't mind me Smile


No, you are right.

I am all sorry if he really has his illness and whatever but the way he's handling this stuff is completely unacceptable and opaque.

As I said, it'd take all of 5 seconds to log in and refund the investors, certainly less effort than keeping trying posting excuses and losing credibility in the process.


Investor. Singular. Non-plural. I have no idea who you are, nor do I care. Do I care about your opinion of me, or what you claim my credibility to be? Not one bit.

"if he really has" made me laugh, given I offered to prove it quite happily to a member of this community previously. I however won't be passing that offer on to you, given you seem to have rather stalker'ish tendencies. Positive feedback also made me chuckle a little, given that I generally avoid this hell infested section of the game like the black plague - do you think I'd honestly get people to post positive content in here? I don't interact with this section, though I'm happy for people to discuss whatever they'd like about me.

Yes, I'm a dubious character that has been in talks with CCP on a number of occasions (they have my details), happens to work in management for a fairly huge corporation (as before, proven previously)

Quote:
I have seen some complaints and people asking whats happening with their ISK or other issues.


People? Complaints? I know of only one person so what the hell are you talking about?
Eiroze
Keizai Inc
#197 - 2012-06-28 10:47:44 UTC
Gregory Brunswick wrote:
So what's the status on eveprofit.com?

While we're all talking about it, does this guy have access to my username and password on the site?


Following up again on this, if you would like a copy of the method used to encrypt your password - drop an email to hello@bitterseatrading.com and I'll send it back to you.
Eiroze
Keizai Inc
#198 - 2012-06-28 10:48:59 UTC
Vaerah Vain wrote:
Kouryusei wrote:

It's a well known fact that I've been dealing with my health lately, and if you're referring to my investors, you mean all 2 of them? Only one of which is private?


Combre Vivo wrote:

Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?


There actually is! A rather extensive rewrite.



May I kindly inquire about the status of my ISK?
If you can't trade or something I am fine getting it back as is, I need the cash for stuff I need to buy.


VV, I'm intending to get back in to the game tomorrow - will send your ISK at that point.
Tom Hagen
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#199 - 2012-06-28 13:03:08 UTC
Nerdy McButtHurt Trald wrote:
Doesn't it worry anyone that this guy ran a scam when he was last in game.

Wasn't just leaving game for baby. Before any RL events he tried to change tack, start votes to avoid paying divs.
When he claimed RL stuff he apparently found time to do other stuff with his ALTs, got called out, didn't answer and then quit.


If you say sorry is all forgiven??




Kouryusei wrote:
Edenfalls wrote:
Kouryusei, i still havnt heared anything back from you, could you respond to me please?

I didnt get the email you claimed to have sent me, and i havnt seen the prototype yet for the website. Its starting to seem very suspsect. Could you clear this up please, because its starting to seem more and more like you've scammed me out of 2 billion isk.


For the record, 2B ISK is a rather trivial sum of ISK. I have yet to send an in-game mail as I've been a bit too busy, I got home at 2am this morning following a short extended trip away from home. I'm more than happy to supply screenshots and copies of mail headers showing exactly when messages were sent.

I'm currently working on BST, the new system for eve-kill.net and a number of other things. Trust me when I say that you'd have to add a couple of 0's on to the end of that 2B to even make it appealing. I'm going to have breakfast now, I'll send an in-game mail after.



Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Kou Avery wrote:
Odd, logins should be working fine. Things have been very hectic this past week or so (health related), so will take a look shortly.


While you are fixing log ins, could you please fix your investors too?
Tom Hagen
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#200 - 2012-06-28 13:03:45 UTC
Alaya Carrier wrote:
Combre Vivo wrote:
Bump to the top! Is there still progress on this app?



In case this is not evident enough: Kouryusei is a scammer who every year pretends to create a different, popular application.
At the same time he always sets up a bond, which he will scam.

One year later he will pop up again, say he paid back investors (most are classed as "private investor" so you cannot check they have really been paid) and will start a new popular application and then another bond scam.

If I were you I would not hold many hopes in this app. Till the next year, in time for the next scam of course!



This is only in your thread here.
So four people that are wondering where their ISK are or warning people from working with you.. And none of them has said they got what they asked for?
So yes I was wondering if this has been resolved or not. Is this odd for someone to question what kind of people you will download programs from?
Do you accept random mail that urge you to click on a link?
If I sent you an *.exe file would you just run it?
I do believe it is for the good of the EVE community to know from how and what they are downloading..