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Minmatar militia plexing tactics
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Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
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#1 - 2012-05-25 02:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Flyinghotpocket
1 Choose system to attack start plexing takes 10-20 minutes per plex to complete

plexing: takes 100 or more plexs to bring a system to a vulnerable state
vulnerable state: destroyer bunker system captured

2 When your tz starts going to bed and logging off for the day glitch 1 or 2 plexs from circulation so they never spawn(until downtime) slowing down counter plexing over the night.

plex glitching: removes the respawn of a certain plex until next downtime

3 repeat for attacking system

1 choose system to defend. start running defensive plexs (oyonata and kurn)

2 run as many defensive plexs as you can because the enemy will be their while your sleeping to try to take the system.

3 glitch 1 or 2 plexs from circulation while your asleep so the enemy will take 30-60% longer in taking the system. (oyonata and kurn major as of right now)


CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#2 - 2012-05-25 02:40:11 UTC
Also fix this madness:

Vigil running a major solo. My 150+ mil full carebear Vengeance cant run a major solo.

Obligatory tears, to make my fans happy: CryCryCry
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#3 - 2012-05-25 02:44:23 UTC
I will try and look past the fact that you are Flyinghotpocket and say that yes, the ability to "game the system" needs to be fixed ASAP. Just don't pretend both sides aren't abusing the same bug.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2012-05-25 02:49:16 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Soon™. They need to consult their metrics.

Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.

CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#5 - 2012-05-25 02:57:42 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Soon™. They need to consult their metrics.

Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.

CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.


Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
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#6 - 2012-05-25 03:16:52 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Soon™. They need to consult their metrics.

Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.

CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.


Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.



the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#7 - 2012-05-25 04:11:45 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Soon™. They need to consult their metrics.

Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.

CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.


Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.



the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar


Of course they do. And of course you don't.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2012-05-25 04:51:49 UTC
Oh I have no doubt there are elements in Amarr that will choose the easy semi-legal way out if/when possible, have the ones I know of on a 'no contact' list and have left fleets/gangs where such practices were endorsed .. just as I leave fleets that go pirate when there is nothing else in space .. but then again I am a minority of one in the conscientious plexing regard as far as I know Smile

Conspiracy? Never mentioned the word. Just pointing out that the whole plex mechanic is screwed and broken, has been since the beginning .. they failed horribly trying to marry randomly spawned exploration plexes with that timer.
Every year we have 2-3 major bugs directly associated with the damn plexes, when said bugs are squashed they tend to come back in a mutated form .. so the problem must be in the timer+exploration code but what do I know.

They should replace all timers with a convoluted racing track made up of rings or something .. the fact that the timers have had so many bugs over the years with no work having been done to them directly should be a pretty clear indication that something is amiss (ie. changes elsewhere manifest as bugs in FW).

Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go give my halo a right proper polish.
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#9 - 2012-05-25 05:46:39 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.


Well, I did outline the whole bug in other thread and got GM warning about the impending ban-hammer for inappropriate behavior after I examined what gallentes were doing in our front. So if anyone wants to bug plexes, he would have only needed to look into that thread in "issues and whatever" forums.
Osiris04
Black Eagle5
#10 - 2012-05-25 10:28:40 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.


Well, I did outline the whole bug in other thread and got GM warning about the impending ban-hammer for inappropriate behavior after I examined what gallentes were doing in our front. So if anyone wants to bug plexes, he would have only needed to look into that thread in "issues and whatever" forums.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwmzcnCF50
Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#11 - 2012-05-25 10:40:01 UTC
Could you please link the thread? I would hate to invalidate pocket's rage by not knowing how to bug plexes.

I like it best when the beats are naked.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#12 - 2012-05-25 12:47:11 UTC

Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#13 - 2012-05-25 13:17:41 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).


Should this be taken as official minmatar statement that "using any and all bugs without any consideration is a-ok?".
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#14 - 2012-05-25 13:54:46 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).


Should this be taken as official minmatar statement that "using any and all bugs without any consideration is a-ok?".


You'd be better off taking it as an "official Jade Constantine" statement that I don't believe a word Hot Pockets and Yoshida say.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#15 - 2012-05-25 16:36:04 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar

Confirming i'm in iron oxide.

Just stopping by to tell you how i enjoy the forum rage these days.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1336480#post1336480
Lol

pew pew
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-25 16:43:39 UTC
Bringing FW to its knees to enable a new system to start fresh.

"working as intended." _ hans herbalgerbilfarmercsmfailure

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2012-05-25 17:10:14 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!

Soon™. They need to consult their metrics.

Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.

CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.


Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.



the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar


Of course they do. And of course you don't.


Why hasn't ccp just fixed this? They are claiming they going to keep iterating on faction war but they don't even fix the bugs that go to the core of faction war and have been identified for months.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cutout Man
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-05-25 18:41:55 UTC
shut up and fight
Lord Meriak
State Naval Academy
#19 - 2012-05-25 18:50:04 UTC
This plex really does need to be sorted, The cheating is the core rot, once this is gone Fw will be the iceing on the cake.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#20 - 2012-05-25 18:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Welcome to how Galentte held and captured many of their systems from Caldari in the weeks prior to the patch. This bug was known about and reported to CCP quite some time ago, but guess the "fix" never made it in the patch much like any other fix.

Fixes < New shiny stuff.

edit..

Gals did this crap as a pretty common tactic.. I don't plex much but in the fights leading up to the patch I was helping when I could and it was a pretty routine thing that we had to send in a fast frig like a Dram to chase some Gal exploiter alt away.

Not only did they have numbers advantage most of the time to win in fights but space ships is such serious business that they also felt the need to exploit these bugs pretty much any chance they got and I'm sure are still doing it now.

Now maybe some of you will understand why many of us have little to no interest in plexing for sov, when CCP can't even be bother to fix long standing issues like this.
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