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Nice job being disgustingly inconsistent and once again incompetent

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DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2012-05-24 22:40:00 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1357378#post1357378

To TL;DR that thread

"Yeah, a senior member of the rules enforcement team told you that what you were doing was okay but we're going to yank the rug out from underneath you and ban you anyways".

CCP, just shut your face, admit you were being stupid, unban HYDRA and treat 0utbreak as a normal B-Team. You're just making yourselves look like idiots again.
DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2012-05-24 22:41:21 UTC
Also, of course they pussy out and lock the topic after 6 pages because Garmon came by and took a rancid dump all over them.
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania
Voidlings
V0IDLINGS
#3 - 2012-05-25 00:38:23 UTC
Can I make love to you?

No homo.



But yeah, pretty much what I have been spamming everywhere.
sperman
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-25 00:41:47 UTC
B===D
Time Funnel
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#5 - 2012-05-25 01:38:04 UTC
As usual I agree with DHD.

Except Hydra. is the B team and Outbreak. is the A team. Ban Hydra. let Outbreak. in.
Vilan Turrik
The Arctic Factory
#6 - 2012-05-25 06:12:20 UTC
CCP: OK Guise, so because last year you people got stupid NEW RULES - If you make a B-Team we will ban both teams
Hydrabreak: l0l0l let's do what we did last year it'll be super funny l0l0l
CCP: BOOOOOOSH
Hydrabreak: OMG THAT WAS TOTALLY WHAT YOU WARNED US ABOUT AND YOU DID IT ANYWAY WAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH

END COMMUNICATION
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2012-05-25 08:17:06 UTC
If you think you might be breaking the rules, you shouldn't get caught doing it, because you probably are.

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#8 - 2012-05-25 12:18:46 UTC
DurrHurrDurr wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1357378#post1357378

To TL;DR that thread

"Yeah, a senior member of the rules enforcement team told you that what you were doing was okay but we're going to yank the rug out from underneath you and ban you anyways".

CCP, just shut your face, admit you were being stupid, unban HYDRA and treat 0utbreak as a normal B-Team. You're just making yourselves look like idiots again.


Thanks for the support.

But I don't think either of the teams deserves a ban... A forced union in to one fighting entity, like RvB I could understand due to last year though, or just reversing of this ruling tbh.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-05-25 14:22:07 UTC
Your 10 PLEX don't count

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

xo3e
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-05-25 14:37:04 UTC
CCP Sreegs post

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113351&find=unread

looks like "Oh, we failed actually, but nevermind. It is you who will be punished for our fail. C YA GUISE :troll:"

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Kadesh Priestess
Goryn Clade
#11 - 2012-05-25 14:40:29 UTC
I like how he doesn't mention far more detailed email & email follow-up we've sent directly to the AT team.
xo3e
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-25 14:42:43 UTC
Quote:
I like how he doesn't mention far more detailed email & email follow-up we've sent directly to the AT team.


what emails ? CoolCoolCool

there were no emails... move along CoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCool

:CCP overloading damage control:

looks like shiet

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Ais Hellia
Jita Honor Industries Union
#13 - 2012-05-25 14:44:27 UTC
xo3e wrote:

there were no emails... move along CoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCool

:CCP overloading damage control:

looks like shiet


looks like CCP classic incarna edition
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-05-25 14:44:30 UTC
It's funny because the first word he wrote was "clarification".
I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

ATX: The best of the rest.

Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-25 14:49:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zowie Powers
"One would assume that were I someone with the knowledge that special rules were drafted specifically because of how I gamed a system I’d be extra careful about it. Instead of doing so the players in this instance chose to engage in the exact same behavior and given that the result last year was absolutely unacceptable to us we have no other choice but to enforce the rule we wrote specifically to deal with this exact specific scenario. When one knowingly goes against that they have nobody to blame but themselves really and that is our stance on this matter. That was and remains our final ruling on the subject and we will not be engaging in any further discussion of the matter. (Unless of course someone pulls yet another petition out of a hat I guess )"


Well his tone and spite is a disgrace. If he worked for me, he'd be looking for work this afternoon.

ATX: The best of the rest.

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#16 - 2012-05-25 14:58:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Raimo
Zowie Powers wrote:
It's funny because the first word he wrote was "clarification".
I don't think it means what he thinks it means.


Yeah it's funny, he "clarifies" by contradicting the GM wording blatantly...
Cursed Soldier Cursed
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#17 - 2012-05-25 15:01:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cursed Soldier Cursed
Vilan Turrik wrote:
CCP: OK Guise, so because last year you people got stupid NEW RULES - If you make a B-Team we will ban both teams
Hydrabreak: l0l0l let's do what we did last year it'll be super funny l0l0l
CCP: BOOOOOOSH
Hydrabreak: OMG THAT WAS TOTALLY WHAT YOU WARNED US ABOUT AND YOU DID IT ANYWAY WAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH

END COMMUNICATION


This is so true it's not even funny. A major alliance felt that they would be able to get past the rules, but when CCP caught them A LOT of people who like hydra and outbreak started whining and crying. Personally I feel that they did provide some entertainment and now that they are out, someone else will have to fill that. But maybe this is a good thing. That just means more room for possible underdogs. We will see how it goes. But I feel that CCP followed what they said

To ensure that all Alliances get a fair opportunity to participate we will be checking on team entries and will disqualify teams who we consider to be 'B' or 'C' teams for bigger Alliances.

http://community.eveonline.com/en/tournament/rules

they didn't follow the rules and CCP dropped the hammer. Maybe next year hydra and outbreak will follow the rules instead of disregarding them. And whether or not it's because CCP or someone is holding a grudge is irrelevant, rules are rules. NO ONE would have complained if these were smaller, lesser known alliances.
pBump
The Greater Goon
#18 - 2012-05-25 15:01:56 UTC
We are now entering the land of copious bullshit and **** poor rhetoric.

The latest attempt by Screech to justify this move is such a bad smoke screen I can't fathom how it made it past proof reading. Banned from competition for merging corps on SiSi... you can say that with a straight face and really think anyone is buying it?

This is the same SiSi that is wiped and beat up and redone on a regular basis right? The one that has no bearing at all on ANYTHING of significance.


This is ****, and it's disappointing because it's just further proof that CCP isn't learning from past experience. The company seems to have magical powers when it comes from bouncing from one giant ****-up to another.

Do the right thing and let them both participate.
Raqn Paudeen
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#19 - 2012-05-25 15:05:24 UTC
DurrHurrDurr wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1357378#post1357378

To TL;DR that thread

"Yeah, a senior member of the rules enforcement team told you that what you were doing was okay but we're going to yank the rug out from underneath you and ban you anyways".

CCP, just shut your face, admit you were being stupid, unban HYDRA and treat 0utbreak as a normal B-Team. You're just making yourselves look like idiots again.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113351&find=unread

CCP have changed their tone now. Suddenly they agree with what was said but this wasn't what was really happening.

I don't think CCP realise that by trying to stop a performance of the (in my opinion horrible) final of AT9, they've managed to make ATX so much worse. And they're just digging themselves into deeper holes with responses like the one above.
DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2012-05-25 17:56:05 UTC
With the change of tone, they should really just ban the 0utbreak team and let HYDRA compete as the defending champions.
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