Ships & Modules

Can't figure this out, on paper and fittings etc T2 seem to have 80 dmg more than faction but when in lvl 4 mission combat seem to various dmg and anywhere from 900-1800 where i constantly get 2000-3000 with T1 or CNR.

I know the explosion velocity/radius is lower on Fury missile but talking about when i'm shooting slow moving BS targets not the frigates or cruisers.

Are they bugged, crap or am I missing something?

Thanks

I'm using a Golem, I try and keep resistances hi 80-85 for omni tank, around 90% if only taking 1 or 2 dmg types, rarely need to run the shield booster at all that way but the odd lvl 4 needs a bit of a boost on initial group aggro.

I like it lazy and quick so the extra hassle of of switching painters around targets etc and webbing stuff wouldn't be for me, I ignore frigates til they orbit me and then just put out T2 light drones with their assist switched on and they clear the frigs without needing to bother with locking them.

I pretty much afk most missions, just click on the launchers after a target pops or ammo has reloded.

I was just shocked at the lack of dmg given by T2 compared to CNR and even T1 when shooting something like a Gist war commander which is a big target and orbiting at around 80-100m/s.

My DPS and Golem is fine for mission running(faster than Tengu unlees the rats use jamming in which case the Golem is useless, can't get ashot off), 4 volleys for all but the higher ISK BS, 2 or 1 for cruisers or BC's, It was just the I expected it to go up with T2 cruise but sounds like tooo much effort, I'll stick to the CN missiles.

Although my Tengu has got the stealth module fitted at the moment so I wouldn't mind a pproper dps/pve set up for that.

golems are bad ships

they NEED two target painters to apply their damage normally

It's both exp velocity and radius.

Fun fact: Fury Cruise has larger radius and lower velocity than t1 torps, thus, nobody uses them. You'd think CCP would have it fixed by now.

Furies work well in Missions when used correctly.

I use a navy Scorp with 3x Rigors and 1 Meta 3 Target Painter with mid level skill.

I used Chrukers to determine the resistance of the NPC I was targeting and subtracted the % of Damage nullified by the resists and came to find that I am hitting my full amount of damage almost every time. I do significantly more with Fury Cruise Missiles on Battleship Rats then regular Missiles and about the same vs Battlecruisers.

Since I don't use faction Ammo which will do less vs NPC Battleships since my Furies hit for full, I use T1 Cruise Missiles on Cruisers, ether or on Battlecruisers which get two shotted and Furies on Battleships.

Not saying they are good but with Rigors and a Painter they are the best thing to hit NPC Battleships with.

Thanks for all the advice, I knew there must be something I wasn't getting right with them, although i still think you shouldn't need to light a up a virtually stationary BS to get a good hit on it.

I might take a look at the Rattlesnake though.

A CNR with a full rig rack of Rigors and an explosion radius reduction implant with sentry drone support will melt face, and is faster than a Tengu in BS-heavy missions where moving is optional. Explosion radius is the key issue with Cruise Fury. Max out your radius reduction and you'll be one-shotting battlecruisers.

I don't use painters (all mids to tank on the CNR), though the couple of times I've mucked around with them I've seen a small increase in damage vs. Angel rats. Painter cycle time is simply too slow vs. my overall damage output to make them worth using on a cruise CNR.

I can't fly a marauder but as I perceive it the problem with cruise missiles on the golem is that the ship bonus is to weapon damage only, not weapon damage and missile hit points, so a cruise golem can lose 1/4-1/2 of its DPS against defender-spamming NPCs (primarily Serpentis and Guristas). Half the reason torps are used is the superior on-paper DPS - the other half is the superior missile HP.

Still takes forever if you don't mind waiting. Very dependent on drone skills as well. I have all drone skills at 5 and I prefer a Domi in the end.

How do you get the ships to not murder your drones once you're AFK?