EVE General Discussion

I think the natural lifetime is 24 hours though I've not done much WH stuff lately. Some last less (16 hours?) I think, not sure.

As for "not being bothered" while trying to get set up, that's another matter entirely.

Missions forum has a "Wormhole guide" thread up, check that out.

The "my/mine" mentality is indicative of the carebear syndrome.
You need to vaccinate them from developing further symtoms.

The vaccination procedure it quite easy:

Go to optimal and give them repeated shots of your best ammo until they explode thus purging the sickness within them.

You'll be doing them a favor.

Thanks for the replies.

I was kinda kidding a bit about the 'my' part, but it was the tiemframe that interested me. Like you all suggested, WH's close after a shortwhile so I was curious how someone could inhabit one long enough to even consider calling it their own.

Regards

Barrak

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Let me be more specicif in light of the last response.

I am interested in PI and have read in a few places that players are moving their corps into WH's to do PI and are doing fairly well from it. But I dont understand how they do that if it closes every 24hrs.

Wormhole systems (the "J" number systems) last forever. What changes over time is the connections between w-space (the "system" on the other side of wormhole) and k-space (normal EVE systems). There really is a lot of wormhole info available for googling, but long story short: These connections are not stable and change over time. While w-space is ALWAYS connected to k-space, the connections (what people call "wormholes") collapse when used too often and also decay over time. When this happens a new connection is made to a different k-space system but has to be re-scanned, and that connection could be on the opposite side of the galaxy.

When someone talks about "their" wormhole it means they have set up a POS and defensive structures in a w-space system. They monitor any intruders into this system and attack them immediately. Since there is no local and everything must be scanned for, the defender living in the wormhole usually has a tactical advantage both in terms of surprise and probably because he already knows where all the interesting sites are. However anyone can get into a wormhole they have scanned. But because the connections are random, you never know which w-space system you are going into until you get there. You could be running into a fairly quiet system with abandoned towers, or an active C5 full of anomaly runners waiting to pod you the minute you show up on d-scan.

Keeping a long term presence in a WH system ranges from very easy in WHs that have a static to high sec or to low class WHs which are more like to have that link, to PITA in WHs that are static to other high class WHs which usually just link to even more WHs.

I lived in a C5 static C4 for quite some time, and on an average day our link to high sec was 4-8 systems long. That meant hours of scanning everyday if we needed to move things in or out. About once a week though, we had a quick 2-3 systems route, and once a month we had a rare direct to H sec link.

Keeping supplied meant planning well ahead, keeping lots of spare POS fuel/ships/ammo, and taking maximum advantage of supply routes even when we would have rather spent the time doing something else. It was an interesting way of EVE life I have to admit.

The "may not be near a hub" part is right, buy you should (depending on the class of WH and what static(s) it has) always be able to get out.



Doesn't really work that way. A WH will have some sort of static exit, whether to high-sec or low-sec, etc. Sounds like you'll be wanting one with a high-sec exit. That being said, your exit changes daily. It may put you two jumps from Jita, or 30. It changes.



For you, probably a static high-sec exit with all the right planets you want for PI.

u mean, the me/mine is a disease for nullbears.. not carebears

I would actually suggest a C3 as the sleeper sites can also be solo'ed in T3's and are more lucrative.

First, its the wormhole that closes, not the solar system. The solar system it links to persists, along with all the stuff in it. Because of this Ive come to using WH for the wormhole, the connection you jump through, and WS for the Wormhole-space Solar-system.

PI in WS is quite good. After you accumulate sufficient material to sell, you got to scan out the static, go to it and jump through.

If it happens to exit close enough to a trade hub, you start moving out your PI and bringing in POS fuel.

All W-systems always have a static that goes somewhere. As soon as the static times out or closes due to over use, it respawns somewhere else in the WS. There is always a way out. It may not go anywhere you want to go, but there is a way out.

yes, and no. there will be times where it may be considered more of a pain to move things in and out. for the most part though, you'll be about a dozen or so jumps from a reasonable hub area. this is assuming the hole you happen to be in has a high security static.

kind of, but not really. given that you're quite new, you'd be looking for a hole with good access to high security, rather than a c6 typically 4 or more wormholes deep. if you happened to have a number of enemies and a decent number of friends, then you could set up in a c5/c6 well off the beaten path and 'probably' not be found very often.

what do you enjoy doing in game the most? missioning? then sleeper sites will keep you entertained with excellent rewards for the skills required. mining? there are a variety of mining sites available in worm holes to keep you clicking. production? set up a p.o.s. and research/produce everything up to a capital ship.

good wormhole space, is what you make of it. a typical basic underpinning is reasonable planetary interaction for p.o.s. fuels (excluding ice, that needs to be trucked in), and a few friends to help along the way.

you mentioned being interested in the p.i. products available. one common way to collect p.i. without setting up a p.o.s. is to have an alt in an industrial with a probe launcher enter and log off in a worm hole with a high security static. they also take in command centers for the planets and set up shop to harvest the planet products, then scan an exit out, and drop them in high sec for pick up later.

if you intend to look into worm holes further, you'll need to train up your astrometric skills.

there is also no concord in worm hole space. you will be entirely on your own, and can be shot at by anyone, anywhere in w-space.

fly fun o7