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If I'm in my rifter flying with speed of light and press brakes....
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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-04 03:42:50 UTC
...tail lights go red (yes rifter has those), but what will the guy behind me actually see ?

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-04 03:46:05 UTC
Uranus, after his head goes through it.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-04 03:49:37 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.

That gives this conversation totally new perspective. It is kind of a gay tho :)

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mkint
#4 - 2011-10-04 03:50:06 UTC
|red|-----|white|-----|blue| ?
or
|red|-----|green|-----|blue| ?

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-10-04 03:50:10 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.

yaaahahahahahaha.

thump.

/me get's off floor and presses +1.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#6 - 2011-10-04 03:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
Why would you do something like that to yourself??

I mean.. WTF?


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The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#7 - 2011-10-04 04:00:02 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.

That gives this conversation totally new perspective. It is kind of a gay tho :)


I thought you said totally new?

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-04 04:35:49 UTC
He wouldn't be able to see anything as he is blind.

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ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-10-04 05:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ThisIsntMyMain
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.
Lol

To give the "correct" answer.....

You are both traveling together in the same inertial reference at the same speed, (which must be somewhat less than c since your rifter has significant mass and not enough energy to actually reach the speed of light) - At this point there is no frequency shift, and no apparent difference in speed between him and you.

You "hit the brakes" - which more accurately you can't actually do, instead you accelerate sharply towards the idiot behind you..

Since you are approaching the observer, you are "blue shifted" to him. Your red lights appear orange

If your rifter is made entirely of neutrinos then I'm not going to speculate whether his head enters uranus or uranus enters his head as the rules of relativity have been violated. (much like uranus)


Edit : And its Red -> Orange -> Yellow -> Green -> Blue -> Indigo -> Violet
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2011-10-04 05:33:55 UTC
If you're in your rifter flying with the speed of light…

…you're moving very slowly, and the guys behind you will already be screaming past you and not notice your silly brake light.
Juddas Priest
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-04 06:47:31 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.



Incorrect. How could he see it AFTER his head goes through it? Surely i would be BEFORE his head goes through it.

Question for the nerds

Assuming the hightway code works on a linier scale. What is the safe braking distance at light speed?

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Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#12 - 2011-10-04 06:52:50 UTC
Juddas Priest wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.



Incorrect. How could he see it AFTER his head goes through it? Surely i would be BEFORE his head goes through it.


We're talking exceeding speed of light here ...

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exozone
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-04 06:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: exozone
Juddas Priest wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.



Incorrect. How could he see it AFTER his head goes through it? Surely i would be BEFORE his head goes through it.

Question for the nerds

Assuming the hightway code works on a linier scale. What is the safe braking distance at light speed?






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Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
#14 - 2011-10-04 06:55:33 UTC
considering we have faster-than-light travel AND faster-than-light sensors, red light stays red.
Sable Blitzmann
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-10-04 07:00:58 UTC
Juddas Priest wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.



Incorrect. How could he see it AFTER his head goes through it? Surely i would be BEFORE his head goes through it.

Question for the nerds

Assuming the hightway code works on a linier scale. What is the safe braking distance at light speed?


o/ Juddas

You mean the 3 second rule, where the minimum safe distance between you and the person in front/behind you is 3 seonds apart?

Assuming that you're traveling at he speed of light (299,792,458 m/s), you would need to be 899,377,374 meters (899,377 km) away to be in safe breaking distance. Big smile
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#16 - 2011-10-04 08:13:51 UTC
Jagga Spikes wrote:
considering we have faster-than-light travel AND faster-than-light sensors, red light stays red.


Not quite that fast sensors. Next time you warp your ship, observe how the colors turn reddish in the back and blueish in the front.

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Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
#17 - 2011-10-04 09:36:34 UTC
Karim alRashid wrote:
Jagga Spikes wrote:
considering we have faster-than-light travel AND faster-than-light sensors, red light stays red.


Not quite that fast sensors. Next time you warp your ship, observe how the colors turn reddish in the back and blueish in the front.


actually, i was referring to on-board scanner. getting information from 14 AU away within seconds is effectively FTL.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2011-10-04 09:42:44 UTC
…anyway, don't make me post the standard relativistic effects video again. The guy behind you sees what he always sees: more or less a single point of high-intensity, high-frequency light.
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-10-04 10:54:26 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Uranus, after his head goes through it.



I deliver +1 Internetz and a "like" for this . ROFLMAO
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-04 13:18:23 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
...tail lights go red (yes rifter has those), but what will the guy behind me actually see ?

Your tail lights don't go red because of relativistic effects. Your tail lights go red because the Rifter doesn't have enough power to run both tail lights and brakes at the same time.
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