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@CCP: Extrinsic Damage Amplifier Balancing

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Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#221 - 2012-05-17 11:51:22 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Not only it has lower resulting output than 10/10.5% weapon modules - it now has stacking penalty.

Not to mention it's semi-useless in low slot for armor boats in PvE. I don't understand why CCP want this to be in low slot unless they planning to add +1 drone module for hi-slot soon. Though "soon" may refer to 2015th and it could be much better to see this module in hi-slots and without stacking penalties (weapons doesn't have stacking penalty)...


Drones doesn't have stacking penalties. Weapon system mods do.
But of course it doesn't change the fact that they should introduce hi-slot mods, increasing number of deployable drones + bandwidth.
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#222 - 2012-05-17 11:52:15 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Not only it has lower resulting output than 10/10.5% weapon modules - it now has stacking penalty.

Not to mention it's semi-useless in low slot for armor boats in PvE. I don't understand why CCP want this to be in low slot unless they planning to add +1 drone module for hi-slot soon. Though "soon" may refer to 2015th and it could be much better to see this module in hi-slots and without stacking penalties (weapons doesn't have stacking penalty)...


lol that's cute. We already have a +1 Drone module in a highslot, it's called a Drone Contol Unit. It is fitted on Carriers. Can't fly a Carrier? man up, stop bitching and move out of highsec.


And yes, I was recently debuted on EN24 / Verge of Collapse video fight #3 and my carrier was dying.

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Armone Melchezidek
Last Rites.
#223 - 2012-05-18 20:50:23 UTC
Hopped on Sisi and fitted up a Proteus drone boat..... Shocked
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#224 - 2012-05-19 10:29:25 UTC
White Tree wrote:
Been playing with this, and CPU is a serious problem. I'm ok with the damage, hell I was OK with 15% damage, but either the CPU for this thing needs to be cut down to like 15, which isn't very realistic, or drone hulls need their CPU upped a fair bit, the Ishtar alone needs another 100 CPU almost to make this thing work efficiently.


White Tree wrote:
Actually, in retrospect, this thing shouldn't be in a lowslot at all. It should be in a highslot.


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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#225 - 2012-05-19 15:49:25 UTC
Where are these darned things on the test server? I can't seem to find them on the 100isk seeded markets.

Thanks
Tankn00blicus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#226 - 2012-05-19 17:32:44 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Where are these darned things on the test server? I can't seem to find them on the 100isk seeded markets.

Thanks

They've been renamed to Drone Damage Amplifier.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#227 - 2012-05-19 19:40:20 UTC
Much obliged, thanks :)
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#228 - 2012-05-19 19:53:30 UTC
Grud damn it - why are there none of these things on the market?
Armone Melchezidek
Last Rites.
#229 - 2012-05-19 20:48:25 UTC
They are on the market on Sisi, if that's what you mean.
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2012-05-20 03:09:09 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Grud damn it - why are there none of these things on the market?


I believe they are only seeded in the test system.


Also, the T2 has been bumped to 19%
Crazy KSK
Tsunami Cartel
#231 - 2012-05-20 06:08:52 UTC
Drones should be the king of weapons in terms of damage and this mod should make it so, for the simple fact that drones can be destroyed, and also have the slowest damage application time of all of them
so that even 25% per module would still not even be close to op since it only takes about 25 seconds for you're average drake to kill 5 drone ship bonused ogre II

apart from that I think that all the other drone upgrade mods use too much cpu in general I mean DLA 55cpu for 24km on the t2 version? thats as much as 1.5 tracking computers or 3.6 tacking enhancer 2's

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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#232 - 2012-05-20 08:43:28 UTC
Joelleaveek wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Grud damn it - why are there none of these things on the market?


I believe they are only seeded in the test system.


Also, the T2 has been bumped to 19%





Quote:
They are on the market on Sisi, if that's what you mean.





Oh lordy. I understand that these are on the test server (we are in the Test Server Feedback forum after all...) - but what I am saying is that they are not being seeded in all regions (at least as far as I can see). I can find the item in the market search box, but when I click on either the T1 or T2 version, it just comes up with 'No Orders found'.


My character is in Verge Vendor, Scheenins to be precise. There are plenty of the special 100 ISK marketplaces around here, but nowhere in the region does anyplace sell them. :( I'll try another region and see if there are any there.

Any thoughts?
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#233 - 2012-05-20 09:24:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomcio FromFarAway
Gorki Andropov wrote:

Oh lordy. I understand that these are on the test server (we are in the Test Server Feedback forum after all...) - but what I am saying is that they are not being seeded in all regions (at least as far as I can see). I can find the item in the market search box, but when I click on either the T1 or T2 version, it just comes up with 'No Orders found'.


My character is in Verge Vendor, Scheenins to be precise. There are plenty of the special 100 ISK marketplaces around here, but nowhere in the region does anyplace sell them. :( I'll try another region and see if there are any there.

Any thoughts?


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Fish Brain
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#234 - 2012-05-20 10:37:35 UTC
It seems like all the new modules are only seeded in 6-C. I'd suggest you use the "moveme" channel to get a character transferred to that system, buy as many as you like as they're seeded for 100 ISK, and then move them with your preferred ship to wherever you want.
Judas II
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#235 - 2012-05-20 13:15:41 UTC
Are any named/faction/deadspace version confirmed, or are we stuck with t1 and t2? And if there are faction version, will they have different fitting reqs?

Ta

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Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#236 - 2012-05-20 14:37:22 UTC
Judas II wrote:
Are any named/faction/deadspace version confirmed, or are we stuck with t1 and t2? And if there are faction version, will they have different fitting reqs?
Ta


It is not confirmed but logically, those mods would be connected to Rogue Drones and CCP said:

CCP Affinity wrote:
There is still on-going development with the rogue drones. They will get *something* from your list above but for now, I am not telling you what :)


From this thread :
Rogue Drones Nerf: A Bit Too Far?

So there is such possibility that those mods will be introduced along with Rogue Drone buffs.
Tankn00blicus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#237 - 2012-05-23 00:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tankn00blicus
Drone damage amplifiers are OP, my (nearly) 1700 DPS lolfit dominix is proof of this loolololoolololololololololl (it's also cap stable because why not?)

[Dominix, our 1698 DPS domi overlords]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Garde II x5


And no, the light tank and lack of ability to get in range to apply the DPS due to blasters and no propulsion mod don't mean anything because everyone knows raw EFT DPS is the only metric that matters when it comes to OPness olololololol
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#238 - 2012-05-24 11:48:57 UTC
TheButcherPete wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
Not only it has lower resulting output than 10/10.5% weapon modules - it now has stacking penalty.

Not to mention it's semi-useless in low slot for armor boats in PvE. I don't understand why CCP want this to be in low slot unless they planning to add +1 drone module for hi-slot soon. Though "soon" may refer to 2015th and it could be much better to see this module in hi-slots and without stacking penalties (weapons doesn't have stacking penalty)...


lol that's cute. We already have a +1 Drone module in a highslot, it's called a Drone Contol Unit. It is fitted on Carriers. Can't fly a Carrier? man up, stop bitching and move out of highsec.


And yes, I was recently debuted on EN24 / Verge of Collapse video fight #3 and my carrier was dying.


Another reason why the EDA should be highslot: so carriers can't use them to create ridiculous AFK ratting mobiles.

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Armone Melchezidek
Last Rites.
#239 - 2012-05-25 16:58:48 UTC
Thanks for the Proteus PVE Buff! High or Low I don't give a rip.


[Proteus, Drone Combat Explorer]

Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

Drone Link Augmentor II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Salvager II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[Empty Rig slot]

Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector


Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x4

I would honestly drop the turrets for some utility as they are completely unnecessary.
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#240 - 2012-05-25 23:08:38 UTC
Armone Melchezidek wrote:
Thanks for the Proteus PVE Buff! High or Low I don't give a rip.


[Proteus, Drone Combat Explorer]

Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

Drone Link Augmentor II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Salvager II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[Empty Rig slot]

Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector


Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x4

I would honestly drop the turrets for some utility as they are completely unnecessary.


Those sentry rigs stack very badly use another damage mod for the cap power relay and then use cap rigs.