EVE General Discussion

I've been playing Eve for a good 6 years now and I have to say this is by far the worst spoiled crying over fresh milk unspilt I have ever seen.

By Amarr I swear some of these pilots would complain if you try to hang them with a rope that wasn't new and the tree thats been dead for a while and grew sorta low.

I diagnose thee with Bitterstone Veteritis. People who think they are bitter vets just becuase something changed on them that challenges the way they where taught to play. A real better vet would rather complain about the FPS drop because of launchers and still demanding a tactical command mode view or complaining about a non related feature impacting thier game play.

There are those with legitimate concerns complains and quite valid disgruntlement that would win them most of new eden if they ever campaign on it but this is getting drowned out over something quite rather silly to complain about.

Remember the old font? Not the one they swapped out last year to allow UI scaling to happen. The one way well before titans floated about, that was declared not 'sci-fi' enough was one reason for its removal. What about the visual D-Scanner that showed all the obecjts in a small minimap in the corner the one that current tactical overlay replaced? What the lot of you need to do is understand, anticipate, and adapt AHEAD of time to all these changes. If you cant manage that do yourself a favor and take a vacation then come back and play again, you will quickly forget the older interface.

This isnt like incarna gate where the feature added no value to the game aside from foundationing for future stuff. This update had end products that are immediably enjoyable added value with only requiring minor tweaks in the future instead of major several expansions worth of overhauls and addiums to fix.

I mean seriously this is almost as silly as the one player I had the displeasure of talking to whining about how the escrow system was better for sending and receiving items and his ignorant refusal to use the new contract system costed him a bet of 100 million isk all because he didnt want to use contracts when I issued him one.

Just because you shot the statue in jita once doesnt mean you are going to be heard again shooting it. At this point nobody is taking you seriously over the UI interface.

Want attention still? Here's a suggestion for a bigger scene blow up the luminare titan that will get attention regardless. Blame the caldari for the software update to the inventory UI.

Either way heres to changing excel spreadsheet in space and changing it to windows in space.

Also I see this being very unlikely reversed, so to make better use of your tears you better start suggestings quick, inuitive, and smarter ways to get something to your liking. like drag and drop a folder in space auto opens a new window without the rest of the tree listed.

BTW I don't see why everyone is saying look at an OS UI for a better understanding. Last time I checked every major OS has the tree function built in and its almost default on all of them. Also like most major OSs out there, Cntl V Cntl A and Shift Drag works rather well.

Those with the foggy crystal ball for fortune telling the future have much more massive issues to complain that would warrent a jita shootout of epic porportios about but for now most of them are making thier hedge bets and hope to come out on top after the dust of when those features are implimented. Those who dont come out on top will definelty be bakc in this fourum whining like a hyena for sure.

Not really, no.

Complaining that one of the most important interfaces in the game has lost functionality and been made slower doesn't particularly qualify as being “spoiled”.
…aside from CCP. Fortunately, they're the only ones who need to take them seriously.

People cry about anyting atm. With Incarna i agree that something had to be done, but now.. Its just anoying little brats that want everything and anything at the same time.

Does the majority of players are women with PMS?

It's not particularly generic though…

Yes, slower. The UI itself is slower due to all the additional crap it has to populate itself with and the constant need to adjust and/or reset what you're looking at means you're spending time doing other things than moving items around.

Aside from a few people crying about the amount of complaints, no really, no. Most of the displeasure is quite concentrated to a couple of key areas.

Lolno. Those are just plain old bug fixes.

The inventory system suffers from design issues, which are much more tricky to fix, and they affect one of the most used and most critical systems in the game — something everyone have to deal with unless they only ever use EVE as an IRC client.

I can understand individuals being upset with lag in the population time of the new UI window, as well as the FPS drop with the launchers. But rage quitting? THAT, to me, screams of immaturity. It took me all of 10 minutes to understand what had happened and make the proper adjustments to the new window.

I guess I'm ok with the b1tching and moaning, we're human, we do that... but rage quitting to me is just ridiculous.

Mind you I'm not the one having issues I had to go though 10 pages to see if there where any other issues about the game because of the expansion.

I am by what you call a horrible tester, my computer has little to know problems running sisi or getting sisi to break or underperform.

Moore's Law is quickly comming to an end. To the point we see it in sight now on some super experimental computers. Also its every 8 weeks these days not 18 months. Average time until your newest and latestest is out of date is about 2 weeks at most.

Im all for the V4 Project.

Tippia,

The problem is not to point out the problems of the new features but the arrogant attitude of wanting everything immediately, plus the fact that we have the childish threads about unsubscribing about everything nowadays.

You are playing long enough to know better than me that the game has, had and will continue to have problems that are being or will be addressed.

This new feature is not perfect? No. Because of it should we cancel our accounts? No. It is the reason for all thisl crying? No. will it destroy the gameplay? No. it will deriously undermines our fun in the game? No. And so on ..

While i look at this forum and I look back I see it in WoW when i played at 4 years ago. I do not see a place for debate and issues and developments on the game interesting as the they was in 2006/2007/2008. Its all about complaining atm.

Trolls have always existed but now is too much.

The new inventory is like Windows Explorer : you got folders, you got files (the items themselves). Oh wait, where are the shortcuts ? omg they're not there (where's the Open Ore Bay in orcas ?) and you can't even keep persistent search strings to look for a specific item as you click several corp hangar tabs. Now THIS is wrong. So how should we behave ? Imho we should complain so that CCP knows about it.

Is that being spoiled ?!


Oh you might want to check the latest dev blog. CCP kind of agrees losing functionality is not ok and they're giving it back. So no, we were not being spoiled, we were being responsible members of this community.

Thank you ccp for listening to the user base instead of considering all of us spoiled when we complain about something that is obviously wrong. The new inventory system is great but it is not a finished product. Finish it (speed issues, shortcuts, opening separate windows by default when using shortcuts and PLEASE ADD A WAY of not having to waste screen space on that nice blue bar (m3) and the value estimate. It is a great feature, but you should have the option (hey, it could be client based!) of not showing it.

The thing is that there has been this growing trend recently that CCP don't really seem to listen to feedback until after the “CANCEL ACCOUNT!” threads come out. In this case, in particular, it is very easy to point to a wealth of feedback and how it resulted in absolutely nothing, at which point those threads come out that much faster to absolutely no-one's surprise.

There is a degree of unresponsiveness that simply breeds this behaviour since it often looks like the only way to make any kind of impact. Whether that's actually true or not is somewhat besides the point — it's a culture that has been growing ever since :18 months: and which has continually been reinforced by the devs.

At this point, I don't particularly blame people for going for the big club at the drop of a hat, because the polite note so rarely seems to make any kind of impact. I also don't mind if most people don't post deep analyses or long itemised lists — there are still those who do and the rest can then just tag along and point to those compilation to say “raaaargh! I agree! ragequit!”. Would it be nicer without the aggressive tone? Sure. I'm no longer convinced that it would work, though…