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What a single guy can do in 9 years.

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-22 20:19:36 UTC
Disclaimer: If you hate "I quit" posts you should probably stop reading further.

So, I quit.

After nine years of being a faithful EVE subscriber (never used PLEX for my main account) time has come to retire. Never were a member of a big corporation (>5 members) and travelled 99% of the time on my own, so what did I spend my time on?

Well, I went exploring and documented my findings. The Amarr and Caldari COSMOS constellations as well as all the epic arcs both in Empire Space (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and SoE) and in Zero Sec (Guristas and Angel). At one time I grabbed a Zephyr and spend a couple of weeks in w-space looking at the various sites. I also managed to start a collection of lore bits from various mission briefings and gathered them into a Lorebook.

I tried my luck with some not so common production and went to explore the process of booster production on my own, eventually gathering my experience in a guide on this generally unknown topic.

Crucible was the highlight of my career, though, as through the influence of the Arek'Jaalan Live Event I got inspired to produce a number "scientific" articles (fictional science in a science fiction world) and for months spend nearly more time on the Evelopedia than on the EVE Client. Thank you for whoever made that wiki. I got to write theories on the Talocans, Yan Jungs, Sleepers and Jovians. Even got my writing and name on in-game objects; quite a feat in my book. Sadly, after the peak at Crucible anything related to A'J and Live Events came to a complete halt, something that could be said for Storyline development in EVE in general.

Never were much a roleplayer; except for my writing. My aim was never to engage with others in RP sessions and gatherings, but immerse myself in the world of EVE and explore it like it was real on its on merit and not an extension of the Real World. If there is a term as 'immersionist' I am that.

Never did much shooting at other players either; spend a year living out of Low Sec running missions for the Blood Raiders and casually engage miners here and there. Realized that when I have the option to cause another person grief/annoyance just because I can, my choice is not to do so. I was a lousy pirate and eventually stopped in that profession, but I met many good people among Low Sec pirates and learned not to discriminate people based on preferred play style.

If you wonder why I stop playing now (if not, stop reading here) it is, amazingly how it might sound to some, because Inferno is providing nothing for me to set new goals. And, having barely logged in for the last three months, it is safe to conclude I am done here. Bitter? No. I will be a father in a few weeks; this disinterest in EVE could be biological conditioned. Besides, life has been progressing nicely beside of EVE; I started playing as an undergraduate, now I have a Ph.D., a full time job and loving wife. A man can get a long way in nine years.

I am further not giving any stuff away. I might need it again one day.

Regards
Jowen D/Myyona

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-22 20:38:25 UTC
Good luck further in your life and all the best for your kid!
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#3 - 2012-05-22 21:47:46 UTC
Sounds like similar situation as my british eve friend. You will be back in 3-4 months. In the mean time, keep training your sp :-)
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-05-22 21:55:30 UTC
In order to avoid possible account hackers in your time away you should let me hold on to your stuff till you get back

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-05-22 22:23:07 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
In order to avoid possible account hackers in your time away you should let me hold on to your stuff till you get back

You can trust her. Someone with a monocle has no reason to steal.

Good luck and congratulations.
Peck R Wood
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-05-22 22:56:32 UTC
Never say never. Take a break, even if for a year, and resub. Just don't let it ever be a higher priority than your family. Take care.

"Benteen, come on, big village, be quick. Bring packs." -George Armstrong Custer

adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#7 - 2012-05-23 00:02:52 UTC
All I got was op is not bright...

After nine years of being a faithful EVE subscriber (never used PLEX for my main account) time has come to retire

A plex gives CCP *MOREEEEEEEEEEEEE* money....

So wtf? why is that even in the thread? fail...
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#8 - 2012-05-23 02:04:25 UTC
We lose another good one. What?

I hope you'll be back some day.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Sturmwolke
#9 - 2012-05-23 06:48:19 UTC
I would like to say a sincere thank you for several of your contributions, especially those on COSMOS. They've been an invaluable aid and time-saver.
Hope you can keep those docs alive/accessible, worse case, pawn them off if/when that becomes a problem.

I'd say keep the training up (you'll never know when you might pop back once in a while), but if you're running a 100+mil SP character(s) you can probably afford an indefinite extended lapse.
Be well.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#10 - 2012-05-23 12:40:24 UTC
Alas, another veteran with nothing to aspire toward for years...

Dear CCP: Take note. Content for veterans is sorely lacking.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-05-23 14:36:27 UTC
You'll be back once that baby starts sleeping through the night.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#12 - 2012-05-23 14:38:29 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Content for veterans is sorely lacking.

Eve is what you make of it. I'll be marking two years in the game tomorrow, and I burned out on CCP-generated content a long time ago. I was going to quit in August, decided to give it one last shot and get away from the in-game content and start making my own. Best decision I ever made.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#13 - 2012-05-23 17:39:15 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Alas, another veteran with nothing to aspire toward for years...

Dear CCP: Take note. Content for veterans is sorely lacking.


Dear CCP: Take note. When one of your veterans, famed for previously taking pleasure and pride in underhand 'in the spirit of EVE' tactics, begins to lose interest, it should be considered a key benchmark.

Take extreme note. Perhaps, even tattoo it onto your forehead backwards, so when you look in the mirror, you shall not forget.



This space for rent.

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-05-23 17:58:54 UTC
Congrats and salute, Jowen
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#15 - 2012-05-23 20:22:43 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Content for veterans is sorely lacking.

Eve is what you make of it. I'll be marking two years in the game tomorrow, and I burned out on CCP-generated content a long time ago. I was going to quit in August, decided to give it one last shot and get away from the in-game content and start making my own. Best decision I ever made.


I was around since 2002 when Eve was a forum. I fell in love with the idea of Eve. Still in love, but bored of the available stuff. Thus I crusade for more stuff for old farts like me. Veteran restricted content that gives us ancients some ass-kicking bonuses for our 100+ million skillpoints (pushing 130 personally, got corpmates around 150-170.)

I see vets like the OP leaving because they've... run out of stuff to chase. I want to see veteran-only ships added to Eve, and I want them not to suck. I'm pretty confident I can get my wish. Once I start screaming about something (5th Zealot turret, 2nd Retri mid) it tends to happen, over the long term... ;)
Hail Goddess
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-05-23 20:44:57 UTC
Good luck!
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-23 21:57:21 UTC
Thanks for all the best wishes.

Cute to tell me to continue my skill training while away; I am far past the point were advancing in skill points bring me anything to achieve, but thanks for the notion. And yes, that is what I am missing; something new to achieve. I too created my own content (as evident by all the stuff I have written) but nine years is a long time and now I appear to have run out of targets to aim for.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-05-24 05:21:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Something Random
Probably the nicest 'i quit' post ive ever read. Congrats on the forthcoming ankle biter o7.

Arek'jalaan grabbed me a while ago - when i caught the mention (in a Chronicle i believe) then found out there was in game stuff going on (very late - COUGH) i had vision of a live questing system going on, some totally genuine on-the-fly content.

It did kinda have that but not in a way i thought, which is a shame (for me) because i think something similar could be the 'vet' content people want. I think i read a chronicle/blog/post (wuteva) that seemed to hint Arek'jalaan content created research stuff would possibly lead to new modules - i wondered if that might be tech 3 mods being introduced.

Anyway, im heading into 'features and ideas' i suppose to be textually murdered by the intelligent folk at some point i guess with this.

Personally, im a year behind you but havnt run out of 'exciting' stuff to do. Im a sporadic player at best so stay out of heavy 'own stuff and rule people' content but there is a lot for an individual to do besides that. The only thing i really miss out on is access to advanced building materials and the ability to safely run POS structures.

I do totally agree with the add more vet content thing though, and will add support to the better arguments

I have a question to you to finish...... have you ever had an officer spawn ?

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Myxx
The Scope
#19 - 2012-05-24 07:57:09 UTC
Well this sucks. You'll be missed, Jowen.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#20 - 2012-05-24 13:55:21 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
...I crusade for more stuff for old farts like me. Veteran restricted content that gives us ancients some ass-kicking bonuses for our 100+ million skillpoints...I want to see veteran-only ships added to Eve


I'm against the idea of giving vets access to stuff just because they're vets. Your 100+ million skill points mean you've already got a distinct advantage over me in combat, not to mention an almost-certainly deeper wallet. I don't think it's in the interest of balanced gameplay to say "hey, give us better ships than the stuff flown by those other guys who also pay you money, because we've been playing longer."

If your primary motivation in Eve is flying new ships on a regular basis, you'll never be satisfied. They could give you veterans access to Jove ships tomorrow, and six months from now you'd be clamoring for bigger and better ships than those.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

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