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New dev blog: Alliance Tournament X Random Draw Results

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CCP Loxy
C C P
C C P Alliance
#61 - 2012-05-23 17:50:42 UTC
On the case of RvB.

We acknowledge that we initially allowed an exception for the two sides of RvB to compete in the tournament as two separate teams. On further review of that decision and the b and c team rule we found that to make such an exception and exclude other teams would raise serious questions. While we respect both sides of RvB who have both fought in the tournament before we must see them as one alliance in the eyes of the tournament.

We have been in contact with the executor of both alliances and have reached a decision that will allow both sides to compete together. This decision is now final and is a special case, it will have no impact on any other judgement with the b and c team rule on other alliances.


  • Both RvB - Red Federation and RvB - Blue Republic will compete as one alliance during the tournament, they will be referred to as "Red Vs Blue" in all matters related to the tournament.
  • Members of both alliances will be eligible for the joint team and should stay in their own alliance.
  • Members in either alliance must still have been a part of their alliance from downtime the 5th of May. Switching from one to the other will break this rule and make them ineligible.

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i hatechosingnames
Insert Corporation Name Here
#62 - 2012-05-23 18:27:54 UTC
Prize wouldn't be a new Battleship would it? Maybe a Scorpion Ishukone Watch?
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-05-23 18:40:12 UTC
Interesting draw, well if nobody enters the auction at all, ATX's final will actually be worse than AT9's.

Hint hint.

ATX: The best of the rest.
ShadowMaster
#64 - 2012-05-23 18:41:05 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:
On the case of RvB.

We acknowledge that we initially allowed an exception for the two sides of RvB to compete in the tournament as two separate teams. On further review of that decision and the b and c team rule we found that to make such an exception and exclude other teams would raise serious questions. While we respect both sides of RvB who have both fought in the tournament before we must see them as one alliance in the eyes of the tournament.

We have been in contact with the executor of both alliances and have reached a decision that will allow both sides to compete together. This decision is now final and is a special case, it will have no impact on any other judgement with the b and c team rule on other alliances.


  • Both RvB - Red Federation and RvB - Blue Republic will compete as one alliance during the tournament, they will be referred to as "Red Vs Blue" in all matters related to the tournament.
  • Members of both alliances will be eligible for the joint team and should stay in their own alliance.
  • Members in either alliance must still have been a part of their alliance from downtime the 5th of May. Switching from one to the other will break this rule and make them ineligible.


Thank you for the clarification Loxy. Really looking forward to the tournament. :D
Rock UrWerld
Turnbull AC's
#65 - 2012-05-23 18:50:58 UTC
its been a wonder to me all these years why they "limit" the entries at all. Sure I know that there are hundreds of alliances that MIGHT want to participate.....why not let anyone willing to pay a LARGE entry fee get in?

Think of the process like the way UEFA does its "champions league" in football/soccer. The actual tournament that you see on EVE TV would only be 32 teams (or 24 or 16) but you can have qualifying tournaments throught the month of May to get to those final 16/24/32

Teams would enter the tournament at various rounds based on whatever factor you want..... alliance size or isk bids or ?
you can put your favorite 4/8/16 teams directly into the final group stage via the "auction".

Everyone would get to play if the had the entry fee....alliances like red vs blue wouldnt have issues, Hydra Pandemic Legion and others wouldnt be mysteriously ommited by the UNSEEN "random" draw.

It would truly be an OPEN tournament that EVERY PAYING SUBSCRIBER can one day hope to be a part of.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#66 - 2012-05-23 19:08:20 UTC
Cheering for Suddenly Spaceships \o\ \o/ /o/

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#67 - 2012-05-23 19:38:57 UTC
Rock UrWerld wrote:
its been a wonder to me all these years why they "limit" the entries at all. Sure I know that there are hundreds of alliances that MIGHT want to participate.....why not let anyone willing to pay a LARGE entry fee get in?

Think of the process like the way UEFA does its "champions league" in football/soccer. The actual tournament that you see on EVE TV would only be 32 teams (or 24 or 16) but you can have qualifying tournaments throught the month of May to get to those final 16/24/32

Teams would enter the tournament at various rounds based on whatever factor you want..... alliance size or isk bids or ?
you can put your favorite 4/8/16 teams directly into the final group stage via the "auction".

Everyone would get to play if the had the entry fee....alliances like red vs blue wouldnt have issues, Hydra Pandemic Legion and others wouldnt be mysteriously ommited by the UNSEEN "random" draw.

It would truly be an OPEN tournament that EVERY PAYING SUBSCRIBER can one day hope to be a part of.



We've already explained that the amount of work requires forces us TODAY to limit teams. To give you a bit of insight the past 2 years (and there was discussion before that) we've seriously discussed a number of scenarios for this. We simply haven't been able to find a way to handle it given how we operate today.

re: the drawing dig; You conspiracy theorists are going to have to pick an alliance we're cheating for and be consistent. It's a big drain on our time even reading this drivel and we can't be cheating for alliance A when they win or do something and alliance B when they win or do something when both of them are at odds. I hope this helps you formulate more coherent conspiracies in the future.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
#68 - 2012-05-23 20:33:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Olmops
Who says a good conspiracy theory has to be consistent? :-D
But actually, I have no idea why people come up with such ideas... is this a result of hanging around in space for too long? Must be the gamma rays or something.
Or could be warping too much does something to the brain.

Maybe someone of these theorists can analyze the video of the draw and find out whether there were REALLY 77 strips of paper in that helmet? Should keep you busy for awhile...
Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-05-23 20:58:28 UTC
Watched the video. Thought "huh, no PL or Hydra..." grabbed my tinfoil hat and a bag of popcorn for the comments thread.

WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED.

10/10 Would read again.
Shandir
EVE University
Ivy League
#70 - 2012-05-23 21:00:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shandir
And if someone could count the pixel ratios in the names given, and make sure that they weren't all blank bits of paper with the 'correct' names photoshopped in, I'd appreciate it. /sarcasm
Raze Zindonas
TYR.
Exodus.
#71 - 2012-05-23 21:03:06 UTC
Excited \o/
Intigo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-05-23 21:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Intigo
Sreegs, I know you're just explaining, but don't take the trolls to heart, m8~ No one with a clue thinks any tampering was done (nor that the team limit could reliably be increased for this AT), we're just looking forward to getting the auctions done with and getting the fights going.

hydra provail
Saulc Neslo
The Brown Hole
#73 - 2012-05-23 22:14:47 UTC
Duncan Tanner wrote:
It's good to see new names, who will be this year's dark horse?


Wtf, get that smooth talking soft ass out of here. Seeing this after you commin on the the outbreak forums gagging ppl left and right, because of a little harmless trolling just makes me sick and it makes my brain tired.

Now Spartan is gagged as well, why the **** is this? He's totally right every inch of the way, no matter who is left in the poll or not. This poll is complete and utter bs, they might just as well have given out a list instead of this stupid video, why is it not allowed to address the pink elephant in the room?

I know you think that CCP is going Apeshet like a friggin 7 yo with a magnifying glass on ants, because of what you and Garmon did last year. But hey its not about "not giving a damn", as we discussed when I made you cry on ts, its about not being scared.

Not being scared is also why I have to post this, being bullied into submission - and being so by old friends that could simply say please, well it just makes me drop my jaw.

- Im out (Probable guessed that)
Duncan Tanner
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#74 - 2012-05-23 22:27:34 UTC
Saulc Neslo wrote:
Duncan Tanner wrote:
It's good to see new names, who will be this year's dark horse?


Wtf, get that smooth talking soft ass out of here. Seeing this after you commin on the the outbreak forums gagging ppl left and right, because of a little harmless trolling just makes me sick and it makes my brain tired.

Now Spartan is gagged as well, why the **** is this? He's totally right every inch of the way, no matter who is left in the poll or not. This poll is complete and utter bs, they might just as well have given out a list instead of this stupid video, why is it not allowed to address the pink elephant in the room?

I know you think that CCP is going Apeshet like a friggin 7 yo with a magnifying glass on ants, because of what you and Garmon did last year. But hey its not about "not giving a damn", as we discussed when I made you cry on ts, its about not being scared.

Not being scared is also why I have to post this, being bullied into submission - and being so by old friends that could simply say please, well it just makes me drop my jaw.

- Im out (Probable guessed that)


I'm not sure if it was intentional but this is an amazing post Saulc.

.
Saulc Neslo
The Brown Hole
#75 - 2012-05-23 22:32:10 UTC
Duncan Tanner wrote:
I'm not sure if it was intentional but this is an amazing post Saulc.


All my posts are amazing. Yours used to be too. Now go and win that tournament, but stop being bad.
Shiroi Okami
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#76 - 2012-05-24 01:21:00 UTC
It's going to be a busy auction. I am wondering though, is there a particular logic behind allowing people who were not in the random draw to participate in the auction? Do you think this ability will be utilised?

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#77 - 2012-05-24 05:25:05 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
It's a big drain on our time even reading this drivel ...


You don't read the forums, stop pretending. Blink

Where I am.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#78 - 2012-05-24 09:13:41 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
re: the drawing dig; You conspiracy theorists are going to have to pick an alliance we're cheating for and be consistent. It's a big drain on our time even reading this drivel and we can't be cheating for alliance A when they win or do something and alliance B when they win or do something when both of them are at odds. I hope this helps you formulate more coherent conspiracies in the future.


CCP Sreegs, seen here doing it right Blink

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2012-05-24 11:19:42 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
re: the drawing dig; You conspiracy theorists are going to have to pick an alliance we're cheating for and be consistent. It's a big drain on our time even reading this drivel and we can't be cheating for alliance A when they win or do something and alliance B when they win or do something when both of them are at odds. I hope this helps you formulate more coherent conspiracies in the future.

the point of most conspiracies is to make the conspirators win no matter what "free decision" the public arrives at.

.
ROXGenghis
Perkone
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-05-24 13:21:37 UTC
Saulc Neslo wrote:
Duncan Tanner wrote:
It's good to see new names, who will be this year's dark horse?


Wtf, get that smooth talking soft ass out of here. Seeing this after you commin on the the outbreak forums gagging ppl left and right, because of a little harmless trolling just makes me sick and it makes my brain tired.

Now Spartan is gagged as well, why the **** is this? He's totally right every inch of the way, no matter who is left in the poll or not. This poll is complete and utter bs, they might just as well have given out a list instead of this stupid video, why is it not allowed to address the pink elephant in the room?

I know you think that CCP is going Apeshet like a friggin 7 yo with a magnifying glass on ants, because of what you and Garmon did last year. But hey its not about "not giving a damn", as we discussed when I made you cry on ts, its about not being scared.

Not being scared is also why I have to post this, being bullied into submission - and being so by old friends that could simply say please, well it just makes me drop my jaw.

- Im out (Probable guessed that)

Hydra psyops FTW!