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Drone Damage Amplifier

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Jack Skyland
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-05-23 13:42:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Skyland
I think they need a buff if anything, i joined this game with the intention of using them, then found out that i wasted my skills once i figured out what dps is and then... everything else just.. works better...
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#42 - 2012-05-23 13:43:09 UTC
I'll stop trying to armor tank anything anymore, it's just not worth it anymore until CCP balances armor setbacks and stops favouring shield.

Even the Myrm tanks better with the new shield boosters, while using less slots and having significantly more dps and mobility.

Split weapon system is certainly not a problem, it's a definite strength. Blasters for close range, drones for any range just increases flexibility.

Drone boats should receive bonuses to all drone effects, makes no sense that other ships get same benefits from webber drones, but don't lose half of their dps.

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-05-23 14:04:03 UTC
Jack Skyland wrote:
I think they need a buff if anything, i joined this game with the intention of using them, then found out that i wasted my skills once i figured out what dps is and then... everything else just.. works better...

with those stats, sentry droneboats are already on par with other ships, with the addition of them being free (not requiring any bullets/charges). buff them and they'll be truly OP.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#44 - 2012-05-23 14:09:17 UTC
Roime wrote:
I'll stop trying to armor tank anything anymore, it's just not worth it anymore until CCP balances armor setbacks and stops favouring shield.




These new low slot warp scrams, webbers, cap boosters, EW mods are awesome!



And then I woke up from the wonderful dream

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#45 - 2012-05-23 14:12:08 UTC
The bump would bring it more into line with the other weapon upgrades, which offer both a damage bonus and rate of fire. Take a Ballistic Control I - 7.5% ROF and 7% damage. If you multiply them together 1.075 * 1.07 you get 1.15, approx 15%.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#46 - 2012-05-23 14:20:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Malcanis wrote:
Roime wrote:
I'll stop trying to armor tank anything anymore, it's just not worth it anymore until CCP balances armor setbacks and stops favouring shield.




These new low slot warp scrams, webbers, cap boosters, EW mods are awesome!



And then I woke up from the wonderful dream


I hear you, but check this out:

EDIT: The fit below does not actually work, but it sure looked good on paper.

[Myrmidon, Myrmidon Shieldferno]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Valkyrie SW-600 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

560 reps, 684dps

Right, 4-slot+rigs tank that is better than the standard 7-slot+rigs dual rep tank. Yes, you miss the dual webs, but you also go 1217m/s and have a flight of medium web drones that allow you to catch a nanocane and scram it.

(above is bs theorycrafting, but I won't delete my stupidities because :integrity: )

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-05-23 14:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jame Jarl Retief
Sarah Schneider wrote:
with those stats, sentry droneboats are already on par with other ships, with the addition of them being free (not requiring any bullets/charges). buff them and they'll be truly OP.


I would argue that drone damage being "free" of ammo is a FLAW rather than a bonus.

I personally would prefer it if I could put Scorch crystals into Amarr T2 drones. I would strongly prefer that to ammo-free drones.

I would also much prefer being able to change an Ogre's blasters to rails, so that they would orbit the target outside of smartbomb range, but with a loss of DPS. I want Berserkers with artillery, so they can alpha people.

I would love to be able to load drones with faction ammo, to boost DPS.

I would love to be able to overheat drones, for a damage boost.

And seriously, what is the income percentage you spent on ammo anyway? Not to mention that a loss of one or more drones every now and then MORE than offsets the cost of ammo. This is a non-issue.

Drone boats are still very, very, VERY far from OP. When I start seeing as many drone boats as Tengus and Drakes, maybe then we can talk nerfs. Until then, CCP should keep on buffing drones and drone boats any way they can think of. Incidentally, if drones are so great, when was the last time you saw a droneboat Proteus in common usage? I rest my case.

P.S. And for the love of god don't bring up capital ships into this discussion or I will scream.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#48 - 2012-05-23 17:24:46 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:
with those stats, sentry droneboats are already on par with other ships, with the addition of them being free (not requiring any bullets/charges). buff them and they'll be truly OP.


I would argue that drone damage being "free" of ammo is a FLAW rather than a bonus.

I personally would prefer it if I could put Scorch crystals into Amarr T2 drones. I would strongly prefer that to ammo-free drones.

I would also much prefer being able to change an Ogre's blasters to rails, so that they would orbit the target outside of smartbomb range, but with a loss of DPS. I want Berserkers with artillery, so they can alpha people.

I would love to be able to load drones with faction ammo, to boost DPS.

I would love to be able to overheat drones, for a damage boost.

And seriously, what is the income percentage you spent on ammo anyway? Not to mention that a loss of one or more drones every now and then MORE than offsets the cost of ammo. This is a non-issue.

Drone boats are still very, very, VERY far from OP. When I start seeing as many drone boats as Tengus and Drakes, maybe then we can talk nerfs. Until then, CCP should keep on buffing drones and drone boats any way they can think of. Incidentally, if drones are so great, when was the last time you saw a droneboat Proteus in common usage? I rest my case.

P.S. And for the love of god don't bring up capital ships into this discussion or I will scream.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this

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