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I have been looking around and can't find any confirmation on what will happen to the self destruct and log-off timers. Presumably they will follow the dilation and not be decoupled like structures, but I would like to hear a dev say that.

Please?

ohh wanted to post a vid of the mass testing btw as i frapsed it! =)

it is an initial test of time dilation so yes there are bugs and yes the devs know about them! but thought ud like to see!

http://youtu.be/HqLTVpc3N7k

uhh buddy, they were doing it wrong in the first place. A Covops with probes can get a lock on any ship at sniping range in a fraction of the time (discretely too), those are what FC's should've been using in the video.

that may be so but keeping a system (especially a system like jita) in permanent high level TiDi would be an absolutely collossal undertaking even for the largest alliances and/or NAPs in the game!

and even after that, direct action to do such a thing in highsec may even fall into the EULA and could land people/alliances in trouble.

as a long time eve player and having 3-4 years of 0.0 fleet battle lagfests history this is undoubtedly the best solution to lag short of eliminating it all together. this seems like a great way to get rid of desynces and node crashes. anyone who's ever had to "form up in a fleet for an hour, travel an hour, and wait an hour just to find out you have to return home because theres a fleet 1/3 the size of yours on the other side of the gate" will appreciate this. ive been on the winning and loosing side of that situation. the winning side meaning using the advantage of a preloaded grid to scare enemies away and the loosing side being hundreds of people wasting 4 hours just find out there wont be a fight.

ive seen thousands of cans, drones, bookmarks, shuttles, and other **** defend a system from a larger force. i cant think of any reason to intentionally want to dilate a node unless your alliance is mostly senior citizens who could use the extra time to think. ceptors, dictors, and stealth bombers are obviously going to loose a little bit of the element of surprise advantage on a dilated node. but anyone who's been in a 500+ fight (at actual fighting range) knows it wont make a difference.

it wont help blobbing but as someone has already stated "its the players" that are responsible, who are to afraid to loose their fleets, iskprinters, and space that they will take every ally they can. system caps didnt stop it, fleet limit didnt stop it, AoE DD didnt stop it. unless you want to be the fc that tells your members they cant come because it would be to dishonorable. i remember when people complained on these very forums about 50man blobs. its blobs that have made eve the only game thats capable of having 1k+ man fights. or else nodes would still be crashing at 100 like they used to. that also means highsec. jita and all the other trade/mission hubs wouldnt be able to run becuase its the 0.0 pvpers who have pushed for development against lag. blobs have had their good and bad effects on eve, and if they continue to get larger? thats just more people yelling at ccp to work on something serious and not the nex store.

I appreciate Veritas and his team for their work they've done on this (and the feedback in this thread, best ive seen in a while). if this is all we get for a winter expansion itll be the best one since revelations. maybe ccp will add an automine or Double LP Friday for those in highsec who also want something for christmas.

Veritas im interested to know if TiDi has been used on any other MMO's? (yes or no fine since im sure you couldnt say which). also i dont like the idea of the camera being slowed down significantly but from what i understand slowing down the cursor and hotkeys actions on a client would slow down the amount of false commands being sent to the servers? would it be reasonable or even possible to make it where only 1 click or key command can be sent from the client every .5 seconds of gametime after the node reaches a certain dilated state so that people arnt just adding 2-4x as many commands as they need to by spamming F1 or other modules? since incoming commands still have to be filtered making real ones wait on a dilated node of say 75% a person would realistically have to wait a few seconds before their modules activated causing them to repetadly click and adding more to a heavy load.

sorry for the wall of text, hasnt been a devblog worth commenting on in a while.

Nice excuses for you apparent lack of skill and knowledge of this game. Coincidentally fixed your post for you.

yah its called your iq or your grade point average

How will time Dialation have any effect of Cepters Steal Bombers.ect

Your Both Dialated you might be moving slower but it takes them longer to target you anyway.

Infact i think it will be a boost to bombers not a nerf.

Im sure some trolls on here's brains are already suffering time dialation!

tbh i dont see what all the fuss is about... yahh theres a bit of additional inertia in the movement of your view, but jesus its not like u have to throw ur mouse across the room to get some quick response from it!

its pretty easily done tbh. i swear the people complaining about the slower than normal view rotation actually werent there in the mass test or have a separate test server installation set up.

Heheh, So Time Dilation is just a fancy word for "Lag as a Feature" LOL

But seriously, if it tracks all the activities accurately as it sounds like it should, this type of slowdown is acceptable to me.

Basically, the game will LOOK Laggy, but if I hit warp out, I will warp out chronologically at the correct time in regards to the events of the battle, but it could take 3x longer to do. But in that time I will take 3x less damage, expend 3x less ammo/cap.

Unlike before where if I tried to warp out, IT would take 10x longer to be noticed by the server as I take 3x as much damage, use 4x as much ammo, and pay 100x more isk to replace my ship.

This is also a good thing because in REALLY big battles, people will have more actual real time to plan and decide what actions to take. Granted that kills a tiny bit of the adrenaline, but with 500 ships on the screen all going pew pew, having 3x longer to make a mistake really makes me feel less incompetent and mad when I DO invariably go pop.