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ATTN: Everyone moaning over the new UI and anything else

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Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-23 10:25:25 UTC
Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple.

Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.

The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE.

Learn to play the game or GTFO.

I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game.

And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want.

Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing.

http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png

Thankyou for the time.

That is all.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#2 - 2012-05-23 10:27:30 UTC
Yep, that'll stop em. Blink
Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-23 10:29:43 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Yep, that'll stop em. Blink


Damn right. Knowing the responses you will get before making a post is the pinacle of posting on EVE-O.
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-05-23 10:30:58 UTC
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#5 - 2012-05-23 10:32:00 UTC
Need to get pest control in for the trolls.

Tal

Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-23 10:37:50 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Need to get pest control in for the trolls.

Tal



Adaptive Pest Control Resistance crits you for over 9000, try again.

MOAR TEARS!
Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-23 10:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Paladin
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


When the situation demands it, my Troll hat will get put away and my Diplomatic Discussion hat will get dusted off.

Sadly, this is what the EVE forums have become...

Until someone actually proves they are willing to have a genuine discussion with me regarding the current state of EVE, I reserve that energy for more productive uses.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2012-05-23 10:45:59 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.

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Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-23 10:49:53 UTC
I like the new inventory, was annoyed at how Amarr ships became copper, but thats just it, an annoyance, im sure i will be used to the look soon. I can't understand what the fuss is about unless maybe more "hassle" for those who micromanage a bazillion alts at once.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-05-23 10:50:06 UTC
The new inventory is good but still have some major issues.

Being at a POS blows up the list with all the guns making it horrible to navigate, there is no division memory for structures etc.
Spanking Monkeys
ZC Omega
#11 - 2012-05-23 10:52:49 UTC
Roime wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.


we were pointing out what was wrong with it weeks before the patch. little changed with it.
the dev responisble said he wouldnt listern to feed back, just take user interaction as a guide. prob with that is sisi is very different to tq and user interaction develops all sort of other issues.

basicly they should haev delayed it, until all the issues were fixed on sisi. they were told repeatedly
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2012-05-23 10:53:01 UTC
Filters, the new UI has them.

please note I don't actually own a POS but the filters seem to work pretty well for everything else so why not POS modules

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2012-05-23 10:53:13 UTC
Roime wrote:
Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory?
…you mean aside from the many many pages that have been written on the subject in both the test feedback and the blog comment threads? Don't play dumb. Roll

No, the OP is the one who's complaining for the sake of complaining so I suppose we can expect him to GTFO post-haste.
Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#14 - 2012-05-23 10:54:01 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Filters, the new UI has them.

please note I don't actually own a POS but the filters seem to work pretty well for everything else so why not POS modules

lol, ignorance is bliss
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2012-05-23 10:55:41 UTC
if ignorance is bliss then I am indeed a very happy man P

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#16 - 2012-05-23 10:56:02 UTC
Roime wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.
I'd be surprised if the player base would ever do that!

Look there are a few issues I've seen already. They were probably reported on SISI - I don't know. I don't pay to test games for people. Rather spend my free time up to my nuts in guts.

I notice wrecks open very slowly or not at all. Cargo containers once looted don't move focus to the previous one, but switch to your ships inventory. etc.

All fixable but annoying for now.

If people want to unsub, go wild. I don't hold it against ya. I did the same over Incarna.

This isn't my hill to die on though. Gonna have some beer and see where little Graic leads me while I watch.
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2012-05-23 10:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Kilth
Roime wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.

Actually, a lot of people have pointed out several of the glaring issues with the new sytem in many different topics, but everyone just seems to ignore those posts and instead troll all the ones that don't explain why they hate the system.
There is a difference between there not being a problem and ignoring it.

So, lets write up some of the common issues with the new UI:


  • Previously set up windows don't automaticly open, more shift+clicking is required
  • Badly designed layout wastes real estate of inventory screen making it take up more room then before and more clutterd
  • Managing Capital ship cargo bays, POS and Corp hangars has become a major hassle and due to bad design takes much extra time to use and is often frustrating to use.
  • Extra windows are buggy and seem to not update themselves properly on a consistent basis creating ghost items.
  • Loads up all the cargo bays before showing, even those you are not viewing, increasing load times for people with many goods or people trying to check their own ships cargo bay when parked next to a POS or something
  • Anything beyond the basics now requires a few extra mouse clicks and button presses to do.
  • New inventory seems intento on showing your ships cargo bay when ever the container/wreck you currently view disapears, causing extra clicks to go to other containers/wrecks.


There is more but I couldn't bother writing more of it as I will most likely get someone like Knulla who just ignore any points I make and just call me mad.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2012-05-23 10:58:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Roime wrote:
Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory?
…you mean aside from the many many pages that have been written on the subject in both the test feedback and the blog comment threads? Don't play dumb. Roll


I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages.

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Jack Paladin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-23 11:01:14 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Roime wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining.
The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'

But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.


Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.

Actually, a lot of people have pointed out several of the glaring issues with the new sytem in many different topics, but everyone just seems to ignore those posts and instead troll all the ones that don't explain why they hate the system.
There is a difference between there not being a problem and ignoring it.

So, lets write up some of the common issues with the new UI:


  • Previously set up windows don't automaticly open, more shift+clicking is required
  • Badly designed layout wastes real estate of inventory screen making it take up more room then before and more clutterd
  • Managing Capital ship cargo bays, POS and Corp hangars has become a major hassle and due to bad design takes much extra time to use and is often frustrating to use.
  • Extra windows are buggy and seem to not update themselves properly on a consistent basis creating ghost items.
  • Loads up all the cargo bays before showing, even those you are not viewing, increasing load times for people with many goods or people trying to check their own ships cargo bay when parked next to a POS or something
  • Anything beyond the basics now requires a few extra mouse clicks and button presses to do.
  • New inventory seems intento on showing your ships cargo bay when ever the container/wreck you currently view disapears, causing extra clicks to go to other containers/wrecks.


There is more but I couldn't bother writing more of it as I will most likely get someone like Knulla who just ignore any points I make and just call me mad.


THIS ^^^^ is a constructive post.
pussnheels
Viziam
#20 - 2012-05-23 11:03:42 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I like the new inventory, was annoyed at how Amarr ships became copper, but thats just it, an annoyance, im sure i will be used to the look soon. I can't understand what the fuss is about unless maybe more "hassle" for those who micromanage a bazillion alts at once.


What have you done with my beautiful golden ship , i ve been away for more than 6 months , resubbed last night and to my horror i find none of my beautiful golden ships, only brown ugly things
This is the main reason we should burn jita

No honestly i am not a fan of those new amarrskin , but i will get used to it eventually

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
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