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Drone Damage Amplifier

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-05-23 04:37:01 UTC
So goddamn sexy.


The nerdiest of internet spaceship nerds are already plotting drone based fleet concepts.


****'s gonna be so awesome.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-23 05:18:21 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
So goddamn sexy.


The nerdiest of internet spaceship nerds are already plotting drone based fleet concepts.


****'s gonna be so awesome.


I somehow doubt that, as T2 sentries will go from what, 550 DPS to around 650? That's still far outpaced by guns.
Marcus Ichiro
IchiCorp
#23 - 2012-05-23 05:33:24 UTC
Xython wrote:
I somehow doubt that, as T2 sentries will go from what, 550 DPS to around 650? That's still far outpaced by guns.



Drones aren't the only weapons that drone boats have though. I've seen a T2 sentry Ishtar fit going around with over 1k dps.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2012-05-23 06:11:51 UTC
THe best part is that Winmater ships can be shield tanked yet still have good drone bay space.

You know what this means.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-05-23 06:15:04 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
THe best part is that Winmater ships can be shield tanked yet still have good drone bay space.

You know what this means.

That they are about to be nerfed :p
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-05-23 06:15:45 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
THe best part is that Winmater ships can be shield tanked yet still have good drone bay space.

You know what this means.





The TYPHOON WILL RISE AGAIN!


Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#27 - 2012-05-23 06:17:31 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
THe best part is that Winmater ships can be shield tanked yet still have good drone bay space.

You know what this means.





The TYPHOON WILL RISE AGAIN!






Bwa ha ha ha!!! YESSSSS!!!! TwistedTwistedTwisted

I practically used them as drone boats before. It's like a domi that got stuck on a trash compactor.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

looMin uS
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-05-23 08:02:57 UTC
Confirmed...Pro "Dry-snitching" thread.
Beolor
World Of Insomnia.
Woke Up Chose Violence
#29 - 2012-05-23 09:00:50 UTC
CCP SoniClover wrote:
Beolor wrote:
... invent T2 Drone Damage Amplifier Blueprints ...

This is an error we fixed today and will be out in the patch tomorrow.

Thank you for answering my question!
I'd wish, industry would become a topic like pvp in the priority. i.e. testing topics.
Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-23 09:33:31 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Awesome I love this module!

Does anyone else think it makes drone boats now a bit OP given we already had the magic 20% per level damage boost from drone interfacing?

My guess is this will not stay like this...

S

Apologize if I'm the 50th person to post this



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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-05-23 09:47:22 UTC
Xython wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
So goddamn sexy.


The nerdiest of internet spaceship nerds are already plotting drone based fleet concepts.


****'s gonna be so awesome.


I somehow doubt that, as T2 sentries will go from what, 550 DPS to around 650? That's still far outpaced by guns.

A Gila with the new mods can go as far as 710+ dps with an ok tank. That's almost comparable to a tengu dps, with the exception of not needing any missile charges. Don't know tbh, but the bonuses are somewhat OP as far as i know.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-05-23 10:28:30 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
If they really become OP just put a smartbomb in your utility high instead of a neut/nos (especially with cap batteries buff)


Does not do jack diddly against sentries.

but that wasn't the point anyway... I don't think the current 15% boost from this module will stand up long term balance-wise.

S


Compared to the ~21% DPS boost a T2 turret damage mod gives, you mean?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2012-05-23 10:31:37 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Xython wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
So goddamn sexy.


The nerdiest of internet spaceship nerds are already plotting drone based fleet concepts.


****'s gonna be so awesome.


I somehow doubt that, as T2 sentries will go from what, 550 DPS to around 650? That's still far outpaced by guns.

A Gila with the new mods can go as far as 710+ dps with an ok tank. That's almost comparable to a tengu dps, with the exception of not needing any missile charges. Don't know tbh, but the bonuses are somewhat OP as far as i know.


What's the tank like on that 700 DPS Gila?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-05-23 11:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Xython wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
So goddamn sexy.


The nerdiest of internet spaceship nerds are already plotting drone based fleet concepts.


****'s gonna be so awesome.


I somehow doubt that, as T2 sentries will go from what, 550 DPS to around 650? That's still far outpaced by guns.

A Gila with the new mods can go as far as 710+ dps with an ok tank. That's almost comparable to a tengu dps, with the exception of not needing any missile charges. Don't know tbh, but the bonuses are somewhat OP as far as i know.


710 DPS with drones only? I doubt it..
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#35 - 2012-05-23 11:21:48 UTC
I had a domi shooting me with curators from 80km away, 300-600 volleys with 40% em resistance, pretty nasty tbh.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#36 - 2012-05-23 12:23:01 UTC
I think it's more likely that the bonus just brought them in line, and now everybody is going wtf. Drones have always been terrible, and I doubt that Gila would stand up to a Tengu with 710 DPS which will have a much more admirable tank I think. Probably faster too, though I'm not super familiar with the Gila.

Ishtars are pretty much paper tanks, so aside from BS ships fieldng drones I don't see more than a few ships getting more than minor buffs from these. Pretty much like any other non-gankfit fielding damage buffs in the lows; only the shield tanks can really get away with it, and they don't benefit much as they lose tank anyway.
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Mariner6
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-05-23 13:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Mariner6
These mods definitely favor the shield boats or shield set ups for what normally should be an armor tanked boat. (I'm only talking about for use for PVP, don't care much about PVE.) The Mrym frankly is left behind if you want to try and capitalize on both its armor bonus and drones bonus and use one of these DDA. Better off still guns and tank in many set ups vice expending the CPU on the DDA. The Gila/rattlesnake look like they get the most benefit and perhaps other boats like some of the Winmatar ships, but I haven't tried it on those yet.

As a fairly heavy user of the Myrm I've found the DDA disappointing. If I shield tank the Mrym, I still get vastly superior performance just focusing on the maximizing the guns. If armor tanked, then I find the CPU requirements of the DDA prohibitive for the damage increase and the corresponding sacrifice for other mids. Just not worth it.

I have not tried it on the Ishtar yet.

Certainly can't fit it well on an Ishkur which is sad.

Ok on the domi but I can get far more performance out of a blaster shield tanked domi focusing on the guns vice the drone damage.

Overall I still think the regular T1 drone boats are still left behind in the dust, and certainly the "Drone Masters" didn't really get the big benefit out of this buff.

Either way, certainly not overpowered considering all the other drawbacks to drone boats. (slow {the heavies especially}, destructible, cost, some racial drones just suck and thus limit damage type selection, can't be overheated which is a huge difference, sentry's....don't get me started, the majority of the EWAR and even these new light web drones suck.

Perhaps if the drone damage modifier on drone boats also boosted specialty drones like rep,EWAR, web etc it might be worth it.

I guess for afk mission runners in a domi this DDA is probably nice?
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#38 - 2012-05-23 13:27:23 UTC
Shield tanking Ndomi is pretty OP for missions now.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-05-23 13:34:41 UTC
I'm rather unimpressed with the module, to be honest.

Gallente are supposedly "drone masters", yet most of their hulls are armor tanked, and the module position conflicts with the tank. Which makes sense - trade tank for gank. However, other races' ships that can either be shield or armor tanked, can go full tank and full gank. So much for "drone masters". And many hulls can't really fit it. Ishkur is one example. At least with my skills, very hard to squeeze it in there.

On boats like Dominix, where only roughly half of the damage comes from drones and the remainder from turrets, this module creates a pretty awkward split weapons system. Remember how nobody liked the Merlin because it had split weapon system? Two turrets, two launchers? Well, Domi is the same, only instead of turrets/missiles you get turrets/drones. Typhoon gets incredibly awkward as well - turrets, missiles AND drones! Three weapons system, in one hull, each with its own damage module.

I admit that with the upcoming ship rebalance, which with luck might reach battleships by the end of the year or early next year, some ships might change. But for now, this module is iffy at best. Rattlesnakes love it, since aside from drones all they have is 4 unbonused launchers. But other boats can really take it or leave it.

Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-05-23 13:37:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Schneider
Rek Seven wrote:
710 DPS with drones only? I doubt it..


711 dps (all 5), flat (same as ingame) profile 5x Garde II, (39 + 12 km, 0.0468 tracking), no implants.

[Gila, PvE - Assist]

Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Gist C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Garde II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

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