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Unified Winferno is now live - and it sucks as much it did on test server

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knulla
Doomheim
#341 - 2012-05-23 09:38:01 UTC
Jajas Helper wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Malice Redeemer wrote:
keep laughing when no one is playing
You know that some people unsubbed because of the new font?
To me, this is the same kind of thing.

After all, it's just the inventory.

How you fly ships and shoot other people in the game hasn't changed at all.

I know life can be hard sometimes. If you really want to be angry, there are more serious things to get angry about in life than this.



SO people do more then flying ships and/to shoot people. These things are now taking more time, are unorganized and overall have gotten worse and tedious. We are now having less time to fly ships and/or shoot people and are having even less fun while doing what was already tedious internetspacebusiness. But atleast you are seeing how "just the inventory" is making the game unplayable for people who do other things then shooting stuff.

Life can be hard sometimes, and i'll accept that "hardness", if that was the intention of this 'upgrade".
Until then, i'll keep believing ccp actually wanted to make our lives easier, but again, ****** it up.... while we all knew this was not going to work before it actually went live.

So I'll be waiting for the CCP, HTFU news statement, and accept that they are indeed trying to make it harder to do simple things in their game.

BTW, if they dont improve the inventory, i myself have 3 account which i will drop because the industry i run on those is now taking ALOT more time then before, handling pos jobs is even more tedious then before and I could save myself 3 subs a month and do other things to make isk with my main ( instead of ******* around with the industry side).

Industry was already tedious to the point where it drove people away from it, this is just the drop. So troll away, but this 'upgrade' was half baked, and forced on us while we all knew it was not finished/useable and was going to fail.


You are the worst example of an industrialist and you give the rest of us a bad name.

I hope you quit today with your 3 accounts, pretty please do it, go ahead, I know you will make a lot of people happy!

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Kimver
United Harlem Forces
#342 - 2012-05-23 09:44:58 UTC
2 knulla
8 day noob? Come on, dont be a chicken, show your real face. You are just a stupid fat troll.
Jajas Helper
#343 - 2012-05-23 09:45:03 UTC
knulla wrote:
Jajas Helper wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Malice Redeemer wrote:
keep laughing when no one is playing
You know that some people unsubbed because of the new font?
To me, this is the same kind of thing.

After all, it's just the inventory.

How you fly ships and shoot other people in the game hasn't changed at all.

I know life can be hard sometimes. If you really want to be angry, there are more serious things to get angry about in life than this.



SO people do more then flying ships and/to shoot people. These things are now taking more time, are unorganized and overall have gotten worse and tedious. We are now having less time to fly ships and/or shoot people and are having even less fun while doing what was already tedious internetspacebusiness. But atleast you are seeing how "just the inventory" is making the game unplayable for people who do other things then shooting stuff.

Life can be hard sometimes, and i'll accept that "hardness", if that was the intention of this 'upgrade".
Until then, i'll keep believing ccp actually wanted to make our lives easier, but again, ****** it up.... while we all knew this was not going to work before it actually went live.

So I'll be waiting for the CCP, HTFU news statement, and accept that they are indeed trying to make it harder to do simple things in their game.

BTW, if they dont improve the inventory, i myself have 3 account which i will drop because the industry i run on those is now taking ALOT more time then before, handling pos jobs is even more tedious then before and I could save myself 3 subs a month and do other things to make isk with my main ( instead of ******* around with the industry side).

Industry was already tedious to the point where it drove people away from it, this is just the drop. So troll away, but this 'upgrade' was half baked, and forced on us while we all knew it was not finished/useable and was going to fail.


You are the worst example of an industrialist and you give the rest of us a bad name.

I hope you quit today with your 3 accounts, pretty please do it, go ahead, I know you will make a lot of people happy!



Comfirming running 99 invention jobs, 3-4 times a day is making me a bad industrialist, having over 700+ industry jobs in our corp is a bad thing indeed... But thank you for pointing that out, I will go and contract all my stuff to you and biomass my toons.

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-
knulla
Doomheim
#344 - 2012-05-23 09:50:42 UTC
Kimver wrote:
2 knulla
8 day noob? Come on, dont be a chicken, show your real face. You are just a stupid fat troll.



And you are? Oh that's right, never mind, I don't give a ****.

But please, keep making the rest of us laugh at your sad trolling, quitting over this UI change? Lol

right.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
knulla
Doomheim
#345 - 2012-05-23 09:51:13 UTC
Jajas Helper wrote:
knulla wrote:
Jajas Helper wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Malice Redeemer wrote:
keep laughing when no one is playing
You know that some people unsubbed because of the new font?
To me, this is the same kind of thing.

After all, it's just the inventory.

How you fly ships and shoot other people in the game hasn't changed at all.

I know life can be hard sometimes. If you really want to be angry, there are more serious things to get angry about in life than this.



SO people do more then flying ships and/to shoot people. These things are now taking more time, are unorganized and overall have gotten worse and tedious. We are now having less time to fly ships and/or shoot people and are having even less fun while doing what was already tedious internetspacebusiness. But atleast you are seeing how "just the inventory" is making the game unplayable for people who do other things then shooting stuff.

Life can be hard sometimes, and i'll accept that "hardness", if that was the intention of this 'upgrade".
Until then, i'll keep believing ccp actually wanted to make our lives easier, but again, ****** it up.... while we all knew this was not going to work before it actually went live.

So I'll be waiting for the CCP, HTFU news statement, and accept that they are indeed trying to make it harder to do simple things in their game.

BTW, if they dont improve the inventory, i myself have 3 account which i will drop because the industry i run on those is now taking ALOT more time then before, handling pos jobs is even more tedious then before and I could save myself 3 subs a month and do other things to make isk with my main ( instead of ******* around with the industry side).

Industry was already tedious to the point where it drove people away from it, this is just the drop. So troll away, but this 'upgrade' was half baked, and forced on us while we all knew it was not finished/useable and was going to fail.


You are the worst example of an industrialist and you give the rest of us a bad name.

I hope you quit today with your 3 accounts, pretty please do it, go ahead, I know you will make a lot of people happy!



Comfirming running 99 invention jobs, 3-4 times a day is making me a bad industrialist, having over 700+ industry jobs in our corp is a bad thing indeed... But thank you for pointing that out, I will go and contract all my stuff to you and biomass my toons.




I hope you do. Peace and it was nice not knowing you.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#346 - 2012-05-23 09:56:01 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Cord Binchiette wrote:
CCP Arrow wrote:
Hey this is great Big smile I lol'd out loud, oh and I'm reading this thread now, sorry about late reply, we have been monitoring the official feedback thread of the blog over the weekend and are collecting valuable input for iteration tasks as well as setting up User testing sessions to be able to actually observe in action the things you are describing so that the changes and fixes we do will be the right ones.


Are you still laughing?

I don't understand how you guys could screw this up so badly. Really.

What do we have to do to get the old inventory back?


I never laugh when idiots play with my hard time working won real money, it's worst than a slap in the face or kick in the balls.


You wanted to play, but you got a CCP Arrow in the knee! Twisted

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#347 - 2012-05-23 09:58:30 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Cord Binchiette wrote:
CCP Arrow wrote:
Hey this is great Big smile I lol'd out loud, oh and I'm reading this thread now, sorry about late reply, we have been monitoring the official feedback thread of the blog over the weekend and are collecting valuable input for iteration tasks as well as setting up User testing sessions to be able to actually observe in action the things you are describing so that the changes and fixes we do will be the right ones.


Are you still laughing?

I don't understand how you guys could screw this up so badly. Really.

What do we have to do to get the old inventory back?


I never laugh when idiots play with my hard time working won real money, it's worst than a slap in the face or kick in the balls.


You wanted to play, but you got a CCP Arrow in the knee! Twisted



Confirming but instead I got head shot Lol

brb
miss eve2006
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#348 - 2012-05-23 09:59:22 UTC
My biggest issue with it is the darker text... sitting at work where the sun shines in, i use a light grey theme. the white works out, but now this new inventory comes along with just a tad darker font colors, making it impossible to read.

Why can't we change font colors?.... Would be an awesome ui improvement.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#349 - 2012-05-23 10:03:02 UTC
Styx Cyc wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:

You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)




There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years.

As for not listening, with that I agree.


This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option.

Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).

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knulla
Doomheim
#350 - 2012-05-23 10:03:57 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Styx Cyc wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:

You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)




There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years.

As for not listening, with that I agree.


This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option.

Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).



Try dealing with life.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#351 - 2012-05-23 10:04:56 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:


And yet people still buy Microsoft products..........


Isn't it funny? Even and Microsoft they understood most would hate their tree views and kept the old windows (now still used by 90% of the user base) available as legacy.

I mean, CCP managed to do worse than Microsoft. That alone should unlock the "HEY WE ARE MORONS" achievement on some WoW page.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#352 - 2012-05-23 10:05:32 UTC
knulla wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Styx Cyc wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:

You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)




There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years.

As for not listening, with that I agree.


This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option.

Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).



Try dealing with life.


It's funny, do you get paid to post such stupid drivel in every thread?

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knulla
Doomheim
#353 - 2012-05-23 10:08:16 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
knulla wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Styx Cyc wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:

You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)




There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years.

As for not listening, with that I agree.


This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option.

Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).



Try dealing with life.


It's funny, do you get paid to post such stupid drivel in every thread?


Nope, your reply was reward enough.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#354 - 2012-05-23 10:13:01 UTC
knulla wrote:

Nope, your reply was reward enough.


You are very easily pleased. It's probably why you like the new UI.

I have a Brooklin bridge for sale if you would like...

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Andemnon Kohort
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#355 - 2012-05-23 10:15:11 UTC
[q

There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years.

As for not listening, with that I agree.[/quote]

This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option.

Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).
[/quote]


Try dealing with life.[/quote]

It's funny, do you get paid to post such stupid drivel in every thread?[/quote]

Nope, your reply was reward enough.
[/quote]

you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
knulla
Doomheim
#356 - 2012-05-23 10:16:29 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
knulla wrote:

Nope, your reply was reward enough.


You are very easily pleased. It's probably why you like the new UI.

I have a Brooklin bridge for sale if you would like...


a or "the"? No but please use that joke more often, I am sure you can kill a crowd with that that material of yours.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
knulla
Doomheim
#357 - 2012-05-23 10:17:56 UTC
Andemnon Kohort wrote:


you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.



You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some Blink

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#358 - 2012-05-23 10:20:57 UTC
knulla wrote:
Andemnon Kohort wrote:


you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.



You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some Blink


what a joke, you are less that insignifiant, begone
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#359 - 2012-05-23 10:21:37 UTC
After playing around with this for a bit, I have two things to say;

1) Excellent summary of most of this at Tippia's rants tbfh.
2) This new system is only really functional for my highsec station-trader, all my in-space pilots have a hell right now. That includes both PvP and PvE-centered pilots.

I need my cargospace open, I need instant-refresh when I cherrypick loot, I need those damn borders gone in the shift-clicked opened windows (so they don't take too much space), especially when I am managing super-/capital-/orca-ships and/or have containers in the hold. Right now my PvP-battleships with medium containers for cap boosters have two shift-clicked windows (just like old system), but they are gigantic (thanks to the borders top/bottom), they don't refresh immediately, they don't remember position, and when I tab down the secure container it drowns away - and have to be picked from a list in the menu on the left.

This is counter-intuitive for fast paced action, a giant PvP nerf, and it's also hampering any kind of looting while PvE'ing (cheerypicking - i.e. non-loot all). Also, I'm curious as to why I can't even shift-click my can to open a separate window right away, why I have to open that gigantic cluncly inventory interface just to open a can that I already see from the window I have open is ridicilous.

TL;DR just like Tippia said, this interface has some benefits/perks, but it's not a finished product and should not be in the game in this current state.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
knulla
Doomheim
#360 - 2012-05-23 10:22:34 UTC
Malice Redeemer wrote:
knulla wrote:
Andemnon Kohort wrote:


you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.



You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some Blink


what a joke, you are less that insignifiant, begone



me begone? No, you begone, you said you quit several times then fing quit and f-off already.

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol