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There are only 2 Militias

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Tekitha
Esshulls Retirement Club
#281 - 2012-05-23 01:21:25 UTC
Klarion Sythis wrote:
I'd been considering buying an alt to play around with FW after the upcoming changes, and I know a lot of other people have been considering this as well from various parts of the game.

But every thread, article, blog, or piece of written text I've seen regarding FW comes off as the whiniest, trollingest (not a word), most biased piece of linguistic garbage I've ever seen. It makes the nullsec entities look like paragons of civility and mutual understanding.

So much for gudfites.


Trolling a FW thread for being too trolly. You sir, would fit right in.

Time to get that alt
Theronth Valarax
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#282 - 2012-05-23 01:22:29 UTC
Klarion Sythis wrote:
I'd been considering buying an alt to play around with FW after the upcoming changes, and I know a lot of other people have been considering this as well from various parts of the game.

But every thread, article, blog, or piece of written text I've seen regarding FW comes off as the whiniest, trollingest (not a word), most biased piece of linguistic garbage I've ever seen. It makes the nullsec entities look like paragons of civility and mutual understanding.

So much for gudfites.

Actually, most of FW threads are similar in quality to 6VDT-H local after bubbling up TEST station.

Speaking of uber serious FW stuff, is Damar having vacation or something?
Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#283 - 2012-05-23 01:26:01 UTC
Tekitha wrote:
Klarion Sythis wrote:
I'd been considering buying an alt to play around with FW after the upcoming changes, and I know a lot of other people have been considering this as well from various parts of the game.

But every thread, article, blog, or piece of written text I've seen regarding FW comes off as the whiniest, trollingest (not a word), most biased piece of linguistic garbage I've ever seen. It makes the nullsec entities look like paragons of civility and mutual understanding.

So much for gudfites.


Trolling a FW thread for being too trolly. You sir, would fit right in.

Time to get that alt


Making one now.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#284 - 2012-05-23 01:26:37 UTC
damars been posting in this thread the whole time... Smile
Theronth Valarax
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#285 - 2012-05-23 01:31:23 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
damars been posting in this thread the whole time... Smile

That's what i thought at first, but had to find his post and found none here. Being both ex-caldari and ex-gallente i know there is no man that takes this FW stuff more seriously than Damar. Therefore I'm suprized he wasn't here yet :(
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#286 - 2012-05-23 01:37:30 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
damars been posting in this thread the whole time... Smile

That's what i thought at first, but had to find his post and found none here. Being both ex-caldari and ex-gallente i know there is no man that takes this FW stuff more seriously than Damar. Therefore I'm suprized he wasn't here yet :(


You may wanna reread some post. Damar sticks out quite easily.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.

Theronth Valarax
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#287 - 2012-05-23 01:40:29 UTC
Sorry, I gave up after 4 pages of the same crap. I have just checked Yuri Intaki and Damar last posts.

Anyway, can you still dock up in enemy High when in militia? I still have some stuff in Villore. Big smile
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#288 - 2012-05-23 01:46:26 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
damars been posting in this thread the whole time... Smile

That's what i thought at first, but had to find his post and found none here. Being both ex-caldari and ex-gallente i know there is no man that takes this FW stuff more seriously than Damar. Therefore I'm suprized he wasn't here yet :(


I think both Damar and Yuri are currently banned from the forums, so he's posting with Joanna Ramirez (I am not certain of the exact spelling).
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#289 - 2012-05-23 03:02:20 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Who is "CCP Flip-Flop", Prithee?

No, it is a pet-name I use interchangeably with CCP SoundFail when talking about Soundwave. He changes his mind so damn fast and often depending on public opinion that he would make a most worthy candidate for -insert name of political party of choice-.
He has had his six months to prove himself and failed miserably. He's probably a great team-leader, maybe even a great team-player and definitely likes the camera, but he is an atrocious decision maker and coordinator .. changes FW just got slammed with have been in place since well before FanFest yet we have been given the illusion of having a say.

Fool/Lie to me once, shame on you. Fool/Lie to me twice and you get cool/mocking pet-names on public forums!
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#290 - 2012-05-23 04:08:41 UTC
This whole thing seems like a waste of time and rep for sotf.

The amarr will continue to not be able(bothered) to defend their space and short of sotf joining the amarr, will lose kamela in a few days or weeks anyway.
Also, I love the way the amarr complain about numbers but can muster a 50 man fleet to take on a 15 man ahac gang in 5 minutes.
They are basically lazy and their intercorp cooperation is no better than the caldaris. Only thing is the caldaris are smarter and more determined, the amarr just have higher average SP and more prolific whining.

Well, as CCP set the scene for a new level of FW, catering more towards low SP toons and new players, i think its time some of the old guard stand aside and let the new blood play. Its just that CCP neglected to make nullsec any good what-so-ever so thats a step that wont be taken or repeated by many people in the short term.
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#291 - 2012-05-23 05:46:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
chatgris wrote:

Even if the entire Minmatar militia had me set red and were complete asshats to me, I would not attack Minmatar.


I'd just like to remind the Father of all Lies of this little incident...

.

Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#292 - 2012-05-23 05:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tentaki
Cat Casidy wrote:
chatgris wrote:

Even if the entire Minmatar militia had me set red and were complete asshats to me, I would not attack Minmatar.


I'd just like to remind the Father of all Lies of this little incident...



I demand JUSTICE in response to this heinous crime.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#293 - 2012-05-23 06:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Tentaki wrote:
Cat Casidy wrote:
chatgris wrote:

Even if the entire Minmatar militia had me set red and were complete asshats to me, I would not attack Minmatar.


I'd just like to remind the Father of all Lies of this little incident...



I demand JUSTICE in response to this heinous crime.


I demand justice for the partial quoting of my post! Specifically the words " space/defend Amarr space" directly following the truncated quote above :)
marketjacker
Mr. Clean Corp..
#294 - 2012-05-23 06:24:54 UTC
Normally I'd just type some terrible comment in here to enrage all parties but I figure this time I'll spend a little time enraging everyone.

SLAPD has watched this unfold and laughed about the level of insanity on all side, but mostly the Minmatar and RP folks are generating the best laughs. I cannot stress enough that in the end it's only my views I'm stating here, not those of all of SLAPD's, but honestly, I hope this thread never dies we are all enjoying it.

Instead of solving the evolving issue with more talks people came to the forums to cry like children. Obviously this could all of been avoided if talks had been held days ahead of the incident in question. In that regard perhaps SOTF could of warned people that if Kamela was assaulted, they'd come to save it. However considering the behavior of the MInnie FW people this is not likely to appeased them. In fact I think SOTF might of thought it best to wait because of this exact RP BS attitude so many of you are taking.

There is a reason CCP does not prevent you from this sort of action. It's because EVE is about player actions, not about an enforced storyline. The roleplaying stuff here is a bit ********. Using RP to shield your comments against a corp is just......for the worst type of EVE player. The people that are doing this SEEMED sane before to me but I am baffled at the level of carebear like rage about "intended game mechanics" and "gallente standards".

SLAPD has always been at odds with portions of the Gallente Miltia because of our "who gives a **** about FW" attitude. There was no interest in plexing until it had a purpose and we would of left if the changes affected us negatively in anyway. FW being used for PVP was only recently a true option after a year or more of mostly empty caldari systems. We also used to be heavily at odds with SOTF over the whole blue WBR thing but they've been such good brosefs (and I believe they'd keep their word if they gave it) lately that I'd gladly back them up if minnies came for revenge. Not that we'd get blue status anyways from LNA, apparently we are not cool enough.

I'd urge all the people in Gallente to quit the RP **** and just dec them if you are so angry, otherwise accept the fact some people will never play the game for that lame crap, so get used ot it and if your RP soul requires you to take action to be at piece, do it. Also while you are at it, dec us too. We are worse than SOTF for sure, we are bad men.
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#295 - 2012-05-23 07:08:28 UTC  |  Edited by: FIRST GENERAL
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
This whole thing seems like a waste of time and rep for sotf.


Also, I love the way the amarr complain about numbers but can muster a 50 man fleet to take on a 15 man ahac gang in 5 minutes.



You really shouldn't bring up the AHAC gang argument, because you Crosi & SP-DR are just clueless as far as AHACS go and the best part about it, 90% of EVE lowsec knows this which ends up in you dieing 90% of the time you undock your AHACS.

Quote:


Well, as CCP set the scene for a new level of FW, catering more towards low SP toons and new players, i think its time some of the old guard stand aside and let the new blood play. Its just that CCP neglected to make nullsec any good what-so-ever so thats a step that wont be taken or repeated by many people in the short term.



Oh and about us being lazy, you damn well bet we are. We don't log on everyday to pew pew for our home, if that's what we wanted to do we'd be in nullsec. As such the new FW doesn't cater towards more low sp toons and players it caters only higher numbers, you know this and i know this - pretending anything else just makes you look clueless and/or silly.

Last but not least, i must thank you really, all of the minnies, the ridiculously huge stockpile of navy battleships we've got lying around is going to pay for at least 2-3 more Titans, they've already more than doubled in value thanks to your remarkable conquest effort.
I must also commend your efforts in taking so many systems before the patch with no lp gain, because now, after the patch, i get to have fleet phoons for 75k lp. Cheers for making them dirtcheap i think you're going to see a lot of us flying them around soon. I really do enjoy others doing the work and then reaping the benefits.
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#296 - 2012-05-23 07:35:35 UTC
@ Amymuff - nicely written post mate, at least someone from your side can post without all the general rubbish.

And if defending someone who we consider to be amongst our closest friends has damaged our rep then fair enough, I'd do exactly the same again.
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#297 - 2012-05-23 07:49:54 UTC
marketjacker wrote:
Normally I'd just type some terrible comment in here to enrage all parties but I figure this time I'll spend a little time enraging everyone.

SLAPD has watched this unfold and laughed about the level of insanity on all side, but mostly the Minmatar and RP folks are generating the best laughs. I cannot stress enough that in the end it's only my views I'm stating here, not those of all of SLAPD's, but honestly, I hope this thread never dies we are all enjoying it.

Instead of solving the evolving issue with more talks people came to the forums to cry like children. Obviously this could all of been avoided if talks had been held days ahead of the incident in question. In that regard perhaps SOTF could of warned people that if Kamela was assaulted, they'd come to save it. However considering the behavior of the MInnie FW people this is not likely to appeased them. In fact I think SOTF might of thought it best to wait because of this exact RP BS attitude so many of you are taking.

There is a reason CCP does not prevent you from this sort of action. It's because EVE is about player actions, not about an enforced storyline. The roleplaying stuff here is a bit ********. Using RP to shield your comments against a corp is just......for the worst type of EVE player. The people that are doing this SEEMED sane before to me but I am baffled at the level of carebear like rage about "intended game mechanics" and "gallente standards".

SLAPD has always been at odds with portions of the Gallente Miltia because of our "who gives a **** about FW" attitude. There was no interest in plexing until it had a purpose and we would of left if the changes affected us negatively in anyway. FW being used for PVP was only recently a true option after a year or more of mostly empty caldari systems. We also used to be heavily at odds with SOTF over the whole blue WBR thing but they've been such good brosefs (and I believe they'd keep their word if they gave it) lately that I'd gladly back them up if minnies came for revenge. Not that we'd get blue status anyways from LNA, apparently we are not cool enough.

I'd urge all the people in Gallente to quit the RP **** and just dec them if you are so angry, otherwise accept the fact some people will never play the game for that lame crap, so get used ot it and if your RP soul requires you to take action to be at piece, do it. Also while you are at it, dec us too. We are worse than SOTF for sure, we are bad men.


+1
Beautiful Frelcia
Whale Girth
#298 - 2012-05-23 07:52:34 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
Klarion Sythis wrote:
I'd been considering buying an alt to play around with FW after the upcoming changes, and I know a lot of other people have been considering this as well from various parts of the game.

But every thread, article, blog, or piece of written text I've seen regarding FW comes off as the whiniest, trollingest (not a word), most biased piece of linguistic garbage I've ever seen. It makes the nullsec entities look like paragons of civility and mutual understanding.

So much for gudfites.

Actually, most of FW threads are similar in quality to 6VDT-H local after bubbling up TEST station.

Speaking of uber serious FW stuff, is Damar having vacation or something?



Well,

FW was dominated by Gaylanete and Minmatar. Caldari and Disco Light will have to do something really fast or they will end up in near future like Pizzza. Can fly only thrasher as everything else is way too expansive.
Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#299 - 2012-05-23 09:24:26 UTC
So.. Amarr/Caldari militias fight Minmatar/Gallente militias. The mechanics aren't perfect but they pretty well dictate who is on whose side. You get to pick which side you're on.

Amarr FW corp is at risk of losing control of a system, calls in Gallente FW corp to save them, that their Minmatar FW aggressors aren't supposed to shoot. Rather than, say, taking their lumps and re-capturing their system later.

It's a pity we aren't all playing this game on a console in the same room, 'cuz some folks would have gotten smacked for a ***** move like this.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#300 - 2012-05-23 09:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
marketjacker wrote:
Normally I'd just type some terrible comment in here to enrage all parties but I figure this time I'll spend a little time enraging everyone.

SLAPD has watched this unfold and laughed about the level of insanity on all side, but mostly the Minmatar and RP folks are generating the best laughs. I cannot stress enough that in the end it's only my views I'm stating here, not those of all of SLAPD's, but honestly, I hope this thread never dies we are all enjoying it.

Instead of solving the evolving issue with more talks people came to the forums to cry like children. Obviously this could all of been avoided if talks had been held days ahead of the incident in question. In that regard perhaps SOTF could of warned people that if Kamela was assaulted, they'd come to save it. However considering the behavior of the MInnie FW people this is not likely to appeased them. In fact I think SOTF might of thought it best to wait because of this exact RP BS attitude so many of you are taking.

There is a reason CCP does not prevent you from this sort of action. It's because EVE is about player actions, not about an enforced storyline. The roleplaying stuff here is a bit ********. Using RP to shield your comments against a corp is just......for the worst type of EVE player. The people that are doing this SEEMED sane before to me but I am baffled at the level of carebear like rage about "intended game mechanics" and "gallente standards".

SLAPD has always been at odds with portions of the Gallente Miltia because of our "who gives a **** about FW" attitude. There was no interest in plexing until it had a purpose and we would of left if the changes affected us negatively in anyway. FW being used for PVP was only recently a true option after a year or more of mostly empty caldari systems. We also used to be heavily at odds with SOTF over the whole blue WBR thing but they've been such good brosefs (and I believe they'd keep their word if they gave it) lately that I'd gladly back them up if minnies came for revenge. Not that we'd get blue status anyways from LNA, apparently we are not cool enough.

I'd urge all the people in Gallente to quit the RP **** and just dec them if you are so angry, otherwise accept the fact some people will never play the game for that lame crap, so get used ot it and if your RP soul requires you to take action to be at piece, do it. Also while you are at it, dec us too. We are worse than SOTF for sure, we are bad men.


You are telling people not to tell others how to play their game, by doing exactly that and telling them how to play their game.

Minmatars wanted to attack Kam because it was home of their war targets. Just like Caldari attacked Rak the other day because you guys lived there & it's one of our systems. There is no RP in that it's playing the game based on the game mechanics and tactics of pushing out your foe.

Telling Minmatars that they can't attack Kam is telling them how they can play their game. Why should they let their war targets tell them how they can play their game?

Aside from that this whole remote repping your war targets should of been fixed ages ago by giving them standings loss.