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TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-20 17:26:33 UTC
Why is it that the SANSHA MILITARY OPERATIONS COMPLEX 7/10 always drops nice loot whilst the 8/10 rarely drops great items with the 10/10 drops being on par with the 8/10.

I look forward to finding the 7/10 far more than the "harder" plexs.

I think that the tables need looking into. I did place a petition as I went about roughly 10 deds without anything but the Overseers effects and I was asked to place a bug report.

Do any of you feel the 8/10s and 10/10s drops are a little too rare?
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#2 - 2012-05-20 22:23:03 UTC
huh?

DED's and end escalations are always uber random, you can go 20 sites in a row with out any thing hit a site that drops every thing, just deal with it and move on.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-05-21 09:12:33 UTC
I dont think you follow me? I am not moaning about this at all I am simply stating that the 7/10s seem to have a far far higher chance, if not 100% chance of dropping something in the 300 mil isk range every time I run it, then add on the effects make the 7/10 a very good site to run.

The 8 and 10/10 have a much much rarer chance of dropping anything great.

The meaning of my post was simply to say that the loot tables don't seem to be the same in terms of randomness.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-05-21 10:10:56 UTC
What's your sample size?
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#5 - 2012-05-21 10:22:19 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
I dont think you follow me? I am not moaning about this at all I am simply stating that the 7/10s seem to have a far far higher chance, if not 100% chance of dropping something in the 300 mil isk range every time I run it, then add on the effects make the 7/10 a very good site to run.

The 8 and 10/10 have a much much rarer chance of dropping anything great.

The meaning of my post was simply to say that the loot tables don't seem to be the same in terms of randomness.


no the loot chance is just about the same, got a sample size of around 6000 ded sites.
Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-05-22 15:43:49 UTC
When have I seen this kind of post before? hmmm...oh I remember. This kind of post about exploration sites appears every week of the year at least once.

OPE is the only item guaranteed to drop from final overseer/structure
everything else is entirely random

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Royaldo
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
Clever Use of Neutral Toons
#7 - 2012-05-22 15:47:45 UTC
The really crap one is the 9/10. It works like a normal escalation, meaning you are sure to see at least 2 regions while running it. And you get crap all before all 3 sites have been done.

Whoever made the sansha 9/10 needs to sort it asap. Its terrible.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#8 - 2012-05-22 15:56:58 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Why is it that the SANSHA MILITARY OPERATIONS COMPLEX 7/10 always drops nice loot whilst the 8/10 rarely drops great items with the 10/10 drops being on par with the 8/10.

I look forward to finding the 7/10 far more than the "harder" plexs.

I think that the tables need looking into. I did place a petition as I went about roughly 10 deds without anything but the Overseers effects and I was asked to place a bug report.

Do any of you feel the 8/10s and 10/10s drops are a little too rare?

Probably because the 8/10s are common as hell.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Maximille Biagge
Hydra Eternal
#9 - 2012-05-22 23:54:05 UTC
6/10 is by far the best of them all...

so easy and A-type EANM drop, yes please!

Do agree that the the higher up ones rarely drop loot of equal or better value than the low level sites (6/10 and 7/10) but hey it is all chance based.

except the 9/10 which just sucks.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#10 - 2012-05-23 00:05:41 UTC
Maximille Biagge wrote:
6/10 is by far the best of them all...

so easy and A-type EANM drop, yes please!

Do agree that the the higher up ones rarely drop loot of equal or better value than the low level sites (6/10 and 7/10) but hey it is all chance based.

except the 9/10 which just sucks.

The a-type EANM is rare as hell, the pith/gurista sites are better when it comes to drops. Chances at a-type invulns and medium shield boosters in one go.

As for the site rating, in my experience the potential reward is higher. Nothing more. Sometimes, like with the 8/10s, the actual drop chance is lower. This was probably a conscious design decision on behalf of the developers, to make the sites more common to find but drop items less often.

Most likely they went this way with the 8/10s to appease people who complained the spent most of their time scanning.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-05-23 05:12:24 UTC
I think they spend most of their time complaining, not scanning.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#12 - 2012-05-23 05:16:34 UTC
St Mio wrote:
I think they spend most of their time complaining, not scanning.

Indeed, what always makes me laugh is that because they can't be bothered to scan more than two or three systems, they stop and run the crappy sites they find.

Then they add that exploration has terrible isk/hour to their list of complaints.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#13 - 2012-05-23 07:00:41 UTC
WTS definition of random, pm me for price quote.
Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-23 15:40:41 UTC
St Mio, Simi Kusoni, Liliana Rahl

excellent posts, I sense the presence of true explorers

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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#15 - 2012-05-23 18:36:15 UTC
These threads are better than the S&I "OMG they stealth-nerfed invention" threads
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#16 - 2012-05-23 18:59:31 UTC
i once did two sanshas 7/10's and got 2 nightmare blueprints.

twas amazing.
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#17 - 2012-05-24 01:54:47 UTC
OllieNorth wrote:
These threads are better than the S&I "OMG they stealth-nerfed invention" threads


Do those still happen with each patch?