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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-23 04:17:33 UTC
- My Filters
- Add Filter

drop down to meta level, equal to and set to Meta 4 and all I see are meta 4.
- I can set it to show me stuff worth less than a mill, more than a mill, more than 10 mill.
- I can set it to show only low slot items, then drag them to a low slot can, set to show only low slot meta 4 from there. Set to show Low slot meta 4 worth more than a million ISK.

Once I establish filters I want, treat it like overview it will work to my benefit.
Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#2 - 2012-05-23 05:07:28 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
- My Filters
- Add Filter

drop down to meta level, equal to and set to Meta 4 and all I see are meta 4.
- I can set it to show me stuff worth less than a mill, more than a mill, more than 10 mill.
- I can set it to show only low slot items, then drag them to a low slot can, set to show only low slot meta 4 from there. Set to show Low slot meta 4 worth more than a million ISK.

Once I establish filters I want, treat it like overview it will work to my benefit.





its too bad that to add this needed feature, they had to completely break the game.
Flakey Foont
#3 - 2012-05-23 05:10:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Malice Redeemer wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
- My Filters
- Add Filter

drop down to meta level, equal to and set to Meta 4 and all I see are meta 4.
- I can set it to show me stuff worth less than a mill, more than a mill, more than 10 mill.
- I can set it to show only low slot items, then drag them to a low slot can, set to show only low slot meta 4 from there. Set to show Low slot meta 4 worth more than a million ISK.

Once I establish filters I want, treat it like overview it will work to my benefit.





its too bad that to add this needed feature, they had to completely break the game.


You voiced you displeasure more than enough. The game is broken for botters...you one?

At this point you are making a fool of yourself I think.....
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#4 - 2012-05-23 05:14:12 UTC
Malice Redeemer wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
- My Filters
- Add Filter

drop down to meta level, equal to and set to Meta 4 and all I see are meta 4.
- I can set it to show me stuff worth less than a mill, more than a mill, more than 10 mill.
- I can set it to show only low slot items, then drag them to a low slot can, set to show only low slot meta 4 from there. Set to show Low slot meta 4 worth more than a million ISK.

Once I establish filters I want, treat it like overview it will work to my benefit.





its too bad that to add this needed feature, they had to completely break the game.


The new inventory system is a great step forward in making his game better. Stop bleeting like a lamb and learn to use it.
Kaitlin Panala
Tortuga Coalition 102
#5 - 2012-05-23 05:17:36 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
The new inventory system is a great step forward in making his game better. Stop bleeting like a lamb and learn to use it.


Yeah, what could be done in 3 simple and easy steps takes 5 steps that aren't as easy. That is a HUGE improvement in the game.

What a joke.
Marcus Ichiro
IchiCorp
#6 - 2012-05-23 05:24:01 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:
You voiced you displeasure more than enough. The game is broken for botters...you one?


Is that it? Instead of actually giving reasons why you think the new inventory system is good you just accuse those who've actually used it for more than 5 minutes and seen it's bugs and limitations of being botters?

The filters are a nice new feature, but I shouldn't have to do twice as much clicking to do something that I used to be able to do easily.

Regardless, having the inventory all taken down into one window would actually make botting much easier once the session change bug is fixed.
Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-23 05:25:07 UTC
Kaitlin Panala wrote:

Yeah, what could be done in 3 simple and easy steps takes 5 steps that aren't as easy. That is a HUGE improvement in the game.

What a joke.


At first I thought so too but after taking some time to study the system and set it up I don't think there's a single operation that takes me more time/clicks than it did before. Could you share what your problems are? It might just be a simple oversight on your part or it could be something that actually needs fixing.
i likecats
Royal Bank Of Amarr
#8 - 2012-05-23 05:28:31 UTC
My favorite part about the 'improvement' is waiting 20+ sec for my corp hangar array to load, every time... Makes doing PI across several accounts a joy. I love you CCP.
Cyprus Amaro
Tortuga Coalition 102
#9 - 2012-05-23 05:44:07 UTC
Sarton Wells wrote:
Kaitlin Panala wrote:

Yeah, what could be done in 3 simple and easy steps takes 5 steps that aren't as easy. That is a HUGE improvement in the game.


At first I thought so too but after taking some time to study the system and set it up I don't think there's a single operation that takes me more time/clicks than it did before. Could you share what your problems are? It might just be a simple oversight on your part or it could be something that actually needs fixing.


How about the simple act of mining? Up until yesterday, I would dock in station and my cargohold would be open and set exactly where I wanted it, lower left corner. I would click on an ore in the cargohold, and if there were more than 1 type of ore, use the Ctrl-A combo to select all. Then I would just drag the selected ore to the left and drop it on top of the Station Items icon in the Neocom bar on the left. That was 3 very quick and easy steps and I was then undocking and out mining again.

1. Click on ore
2. Ctrl-A
3. Click-drag

So far, the best I've been able to do with the new UI is 5 steps. When docked now the cargohold window is not open. I have to first open it by either Alt-C or clicking on the items icon on the neocom bar. Then I have to click on that tiny little ship icon in the tree to open up my ships cargohold. Then I click on an ore, Ctrl-A to select all, and then drag the ore to the tiny little item icon in the tree to drop it. 5 steps, two of which are not as easy since the icons are a lot smaller and you have to be more accurate with your mouse.

1. Alt-C
2. Click on Ship icon (to open cargohold)
3. Click on ore
4. Ctrl-A
5. Click-drag

So, I seriously would love to hear how you can accomplish this simple, and oft repeated task in the same length of time/clicks as it did before. I can't seem to figure it out.
Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-05-23 05:56:38 UTC
Cyprus Amaro wrote:
Sarton Wells wrote:
Kaitlin Panala wrote:

Yeah, what could be done in 3 simple and easy steps takes 5 steps that aren't as easy. That is a HUGE improvement in the game.


At first I thought so too but after taking some time to study the system and set it up I don't think there's a single operation that takes me more time/clicks than it did before. Could you share what your problems are? It might just be a simple oversight on your part or it could be something that actually needs fixing.


How about the simple act of mining? Up until yesterday, I would dock in station and my cargohold would be open and set exactly where I wanted it, lower left corner. I would click on an ore in the cargohold, and if there were more than 1 type of ore, use the Ctrl-A combo to select all. Then I would just drag the selected ore to the left and drop it on top of the Station Items icon in the Neocom bar on the left. That was 3 very quick and easy steps and I was then undocking and out mining again.

1. Click on ore
2. Ctrl-A
3. Click-drag



And now you can do it with those same steps but instead of the neocom shortcut you drag it on the items hangar shortcut below the station service icons. If you don't want to leave your cargo hold open before docking you just need to double click on your ship.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-05-23 06:01:58 UTC
Cyprus Amaro wrote:
Sarton Wells wrote:
Kaitlin Panala wrote:

Yeah, what could be done in 3 simple and easy steps takes 5 steps that aren't as easy. That is a HUGE improvement in the game.


At first I thought so too but after taking some time to study the system and set it up I don't think there's a single operation that takes me more time/clicks than it did before. Could you share what your problems are? It might just be a simple oversight on your part or it could be something that actually needs fixing.


How about the simple act of mining? Up until yesterday, I would dock in station and my cargohold would be open and set exactly where I wanted it, lower left corner. I would click on an ore in the cargohold, and if there were more than 1 type of ore, use the Ctrl-A combo to select all. Then I would just drag the selected ore to the left and drop it on top of the Station Items icon in the Neocom bar on the left. That was 3 very quick and easy steps and I was then undocking and out mining again.

1. Click on ore
2. Ctrl-A
3. Click-drag

So far, the best I've been able to do with the new UI is 5 steps. When docked now the cargohold window is not open. I have to first open it by either Alt-C or clicking on the items icon on the neocom bar. Then I have to click on that tiny little ship icon in the tree to open up my ships cargohold. Then I click on an ore, Ctrl-A to select all, and then drag the ore to the tiny little item icon in the tree to drop it. 5 steps, two of which are not as easy since the icons are a lot smaller and you have to be more accurate with your mouse.

1. Alt-C
2. Click on Ship icon (to open cargohold)
3. Click on ore
4. Ctrl-A
5. Click-drag

So, I seriously would love to hear how you can accomplish this simple, and oft repeated task in the same length of time/clicks as it did before. I can't seem to figure it out.



You forgot the 10 seconds spinning loading icon that occurs after step 1 when you have more than 400 items in station.
Katya Timoshenko
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-23 06:40:54 UTC
Didn't ask for it Don't want it. I liked it as it was before. It has made looting harder. give me back my little cargo window
Sisocih
Space Mermaids
#13 - 2012-05-25 05:15:12 UTC
- The cargo window now holds position above the chat window when undocked (where I used to keep it before), reverts to where you place it when you dock up. This includes the option to push the tree in and not depending on where you have it.

- With the T2 overclock Rigs I can now get a mackinaw to 12.5K EHP. It simply isn't enough. It really needs CPU and PG of a Hulk or you need to put Ice belts back in other systems besides .7 space.

- I can't see issues with the POS interface. Granted I only dropped a small and had a few research facilities in it but it seemed no more cumbersome than it ever was. When the Icon is opened using the module interface it sent me to whatever point that inventory was on the tree. The only difference being, hangars are now in the inventory, not the Interface for the module.

Looks fine so far and keeping space clean was my only concern, simply because it's the only place someone is going to be shooting at me while I steal their shite.