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So I got this idea...

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Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#1 - 2012-05-22 05:49:39 UTC
Using a Dread (Phoenix) and a shitton of TP's to clear WH sites. Sound viable? (I also think a remote sensor booster ship would be of use also, for the targeting speed of the Phoenix)

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-05-22 06:57:07 UTC
No.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-22 07:26:05 UTC
Thats a terrible idea. The phoenix is terrible at everything.

However, using a triage carrier to tank and remote tank, a loki to web and a moros to one shot stuff... That is very viable.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#4 - 2012-05-22 14:32:50 UTC
you should do it and tell us how it goes.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#5 - 2012-05-22 18:02:07 UTC
Valea Silpha wrote:
Thats a terrible idea. The phoenix is terrible at everything.

However, using a triage carrier to tank and remote tank, a loki to web and a moros to one shot stuff... That is very viable.


Why is it horrible?

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2012-05-22 18:10:09 UTC
Just in case you were serious, some numbers:

Citadel Cruise in siege, 4 T2 BCUs: 2007 DPS, 17.4 explosion velocity, 1750 explosion radius

Citadel Torps in seige, 4 T2 BCUs: 3437 DPS, 12 explosion velocity, 2000 explosion radius

Sleeper BSs have speeds between 800 and 1575 and signatures of 400. Before painters or webs, citadel cruises are doing 18.6 DPS and citadel torps are doing 10.3 DPS to the slowest sleeper BSs and I'm not going to bother calculating the faster ones.

Good luck stacking enough painters and webs to make that significant before stacking penalties' diminishing returns kill you. Remember, stacking is by effect on target, so your 5th web has the same penalty as that 5th damage mod everyone is always laughing about.

Have a spreadsheet on me:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhzdGHNl5YBQdEJkRWxSVzg2bzA1RXlpOXptMjc3S0E
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#7 - 2012-05-22 22:42:27 UTC
Painter bonused ship + 90% webs = win


Though, I'd rather just use a revelation and eliminate the painter ship altogether.
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#8 - 2012-05-22 22:56:47 UTC
Use a carrier with Einhjeri fighters. Profit. They can also kill cruisers.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-05-23 05:58:27 UTC
Templar Dane wrote:
Painter bonused ship + 90% webs = win


Though, I'd rather just use a revelation and eliminate the painter ship altogether.


Yeah, it looks like two 90% webs will make a damn world of difference. Combine that with between 4 and 6 bonused painters and it looks like it would work well enough.