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Unified Winferno is now live - and it sucks as much it did on test server

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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#261 - 2012-05-23 00:57:20 UTC
Komen wrote:
The new missile effects are sweet.



Your post would be much more effective to your intent if this statement were not the first thing read at the top.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Bauloe
FBN 4893
#262 - 2012-05-23 00:58:56 UTC
I am finding the new unified inventory system being similar to windows 7

Try Shift click the tabs and it will open a new window. This should solve most people's problem.

I think old eve players will need to start leaning to use a computer.
Prisoner 002929
Wulgun Wing
#263 - 2012-05-23 01:01:02 UTC
Just let me turn it off. This is literally the new CQ. I didn't ask for it, I don't need it, and I don't want it. It makes my life WORSE. Give me a butan already so that I may push it.
Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#264 - 2012-05-23 01:01:08 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Komen wrote:
The new missile effects are sweet.



Your post would be much more effective to your intent if this statement were not the first thing read at the top.


Do you have anything useful to add to the discu...oh. your post history. Nevermind, answered my question.
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2012-05-23 01:15:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Dbars Grinding
inferno is a step back. SKILL TRAINING MODE BEGINS again........ WINTER IS COMING!!!

I have more space likes than you. 
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#266 - 2012-05-23 01:16:21 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Then this is a problem with implementation, rather than design concepts, and most of the whining I've read has been about the change to a unified window - hence the troll post up there ^
Sure, I can agree with that. The problem is that a lot of the implementation issues seem like they are direct effects of the attempt to move towards that unified window. Somewhere along the line, the thought that maybe some things shouldn't be fully unified seems to have been overlooked.

The whines about the unification is how that design concept imposes itself onto a lot of use cases that outright call for multiple windows. It's kind of the design version of “categorical statements are categorically false”.

I can fully understand the exuberance in putting everything they could into this new system, but now they need to step back and see what about the old system was actually useful (even more useful than the new one, in some cases), and ensure that those pre-existing good solutions are not overwritten with bad ones.


One thing that should have been brought back is how you used to be able to minimalize chats to the bottom of the screen instead of into some hidden place in the sidebar ( if you are lucky... every once in a while it hides in CTRL-TAB & trying to explain that to the poor sap in chat because INFERNO HAS REALLY SCREWEDUP EVE VOICE is almost enough to make me wanna disband a fleet before it has even started CryOops
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#267 - 2012-05-23 01:18:45 UTC
anyone just now trying to get used to it, just wait, it get so much better that after a few days you start kicking dogs and children, and you have no idea why.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#268 - 2012-05-23 01:31:33 UTC
Komen wrote:


Do you have anything useful to add to the discu...oh. your post history. Nevermind, answered my question.


I was trying to get your important and relevant post to get more attention, but if you want to be a d**k.......

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#269 - 2012-05-23 01:31:57 UTC
Bauloe wrote:
I am finding the new unified inventory system being similar to windows 7

Try Shift click the tabs and it will open a new window. This should solve most people's problem.

I think old eve players will need to start leaning to use a computer.




Read the entire rest of the thread for multiple post explaining why the shift-click thing would be a great workaround.....if it at all stored window position/state, which it doesn't.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#270 - 2012-05-23 01:32:53 UTC
Bauloe wrote:


Try Shift click the tabs and it will open a new window. This should solve most people's problem.





IF YOU EVER UNDOCK THEY GO AWAY UTTERLY. JESUS. YOU LIKE THAT. HAVE A NICE EVENING.


iS THIS THING ON ??????????

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#271 - 2012-05-23 01:34:31 UTC
Malice Redeemer wrote:
anyone just now trying to get used to it, just wait, it get so much better that after a few days you start kicking dogs and children, and you have no idea why.


I'm already there with ya................

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#272 - 2012-05-23 01:35:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
Bauloe wrote:


I think old eve players will need to start leaning to use a computer.



That's a really DUMB thing to say. Your mother would be ashamed.

Besides I don't need help leaning on my computer, or leaning while learning to use it or whatever........

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Disdaine
#273 - 2012-05-23 01:43:29 UTC
Looting is now also a pain. Radar sites, some cans trigger a spawn that's guarding the container, some trigger a spawn that doesn't.

Only way to find out is to try to open the can. Now when you open a can that's being guarded you get the same old this can is being guarded message, but now it decides to open your inventory anyway, which you've then got to close so you can kill the rats guarding the can.

Why does it add a list of cans that I've already looted to the tree? I've looted them and moved on, if I want to revisit them to admire their emptiness I can select them in overview again. They're all out of range because I've moved on anyway, so if by some chance I left a gistum a-type in one by mistake I still have to fly to it anyway before I can use the new and convenient list of cans I've already looked at.

Bring back the small convenient loot windows. I'm not going to chuck a couple of containers in that can and reorganise the loot before I take it. It's unnecessary.

I'm prepared to give the new inventory a chance, but you're making it needlessly difficult.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#274 - 2012-05-23 01:51:04 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
Spice Weasel wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

you're doing it wrong


What's the right way?


A different way would be to left click the drone bay in the lower left corner of the fitting window.



And why would i want to open the fitting window when I just want to see my drone bay?

Nothing clever at this time.
Agrapena
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#275 - 2012-05-23 01:55:55 UTC
"Progress...... What is it?" - to quote the medicore Inferno trailer.

Not the new inventory system it seems.....
David Gradivus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#276 - 2012-05-23 02:09:54 UTC
Yes, change the item UI back please. Or add an option
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#277 - 2012-05-23 02:12:01 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'd just like to confirm that "winferno" is indeed going to be awesome.

Let's do Unified Ponies™

Who's up for photoshop challenge ?
Mulm
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#278 - 2012-05-23 02:17:14 UTC
Option to undo new window "fix" please!

Unbearable and nearly unusable. Old system was sleek and easy, new system is super crap.

Open ship cargo on pos for ultimate surprise!
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#279 - 2012-05-23 02:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
I have a very awesome idea.
Let's remove hangars and cargoholds from ships.
Also high slots have to be removed.

This changes will make eve super awesome.
I think i deserve a medal for this awesome idea.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#280 - 2012-05-23 02:33:33 UTC
Spc One wrote:
I have a very awesome idea.
Let's remove hangars and cargoholds from ships.
Also high slots have to be removed.

This changes will make eve super awesome.
I think i deserve a medal for this awesome idea.


And I'm sure CCP will pull it off with Flair.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900