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Clarification on LP for plexing and kills
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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#1 - 2012-05-22 22:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
First:

Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing? I'm concerned that people will try to offensive plex, and at the very last moment, another militia member will come into the plex and get credit for finishing it without asking for permission.

Second:

If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?

I'm asking because the devblog on the FW overhaul says this;

Quote:
If the killing blow belongs to someone in a fleet, all eligible members will receive a split share of the LP booty, even if they are in the allied militia.



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.

Correct? No?

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-22 22:49:46 UTC
You just need to be on grid to get LP.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#3 - 2012-05-23 00:25:35 UTC
Comfirming my new minnie farmer alt will soon be coming into all your plexes and stealing your LP payouts.


PS, I may have some friends, and a lol friendly point.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-05-23 00:41:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
masternerdguy wrote:
You just need to be on grid to get LP.

Nope. Ran a plex today, and got a notification that said that I was not close enough to the beacon to be awarded LP for the cap - I was sitting on the warpin.
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#5 - 2012-05-23 02:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuehnelt
Deen Wispa wrote:
Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing?


No. If you're on grid but don't qualify for LP, you'll get an EVEmail that will tell you why.

Quote:
If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?


Not sure, and just logged off, but I suspect that he splits the LP for the kill with his fleet, and you get nothing. Based on this: I got just short of 7000 LP for this kill; another member of my fleet who was on grid but not on the KM says he was awarded LP for the kill. There were too many others in fleet but not on-grid (or in system) for 7000 LP to be a reasonable figure split among all of us. The capsuleer who did all the work in that but wasn't in fleet with me asked me how much LP we'd get for that; I didn't think until just now that the EVEmail you get is pretty noticeable...

This prevents one of my "faction warfare whine threads from the future" topics, of roaming gangs of TDing and TPing frigs that try to get on KMs to get LP :)

It should also mean that logi (who are on grid and in fleet, but not on the KM) will get LP for fleet kills.

Quote:
Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2012-05-23 03:14:09 UTC
So they at least managed to eradicate the most obvious Farming/Griefing tactics .. but for your sanity I sincerely hope they have a way for you to turn off those mails, sounds like a righteous spam-fest for the casual pew when one can't be bothered to join the blob and/or don't make it to button in time.

PS: Could we please have a spam filter on the in-game mail client? Smile
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-23 15:31:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Smacker
(edit do to poor readingz)

I have another question: It was mentioned previously you can get LP for plexing in the other warzone. What corp gives you that LP? Yours or the other militia?

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-23 16:06:16 UTC
Dirk Smacker wrote:
(edit do to poor readingz)

I have another question: It was mentioned previously you can get LP for plexing in the other warzone. What corp gives you that LP? Yours or the other militia?


If the deb blog is accurate - yours. If a caldari and amarr both do an amarr plex together, one gets caldari LP the other gets Amarr LP.

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Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-05-23 16:34:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Garr Earthbender
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
So they at least managed to eradicate the most obvious Farming/Griefing tactics .. but for your sanity I sincerely hope they have a way for you to turn off those mails, sounds like a righteous spam-fest for the casual pew when one can't be bothered to join the blob and/or don't make it to button in time.

PS: Could we please have a spam filter on the in-game mail client? Smile


Turn off your notifications and you'll be fine. It's one of those notifications, and not an actual mail.

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Yogsoloth
Fliet Pizza Delivery
Of Essence
#10 - 2012-05-23 20:01:02 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
First:

Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing? I'm concerned that people will try to offensive plex, and at the very last moment, another militia member will come into the plex and get credit for finishing it without asking for permission.

Second:

If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?

I'm asking because the devblog on the FW overhaul says this;

Quote:
If the killing blow belongs to someone in a fleet, all eligible members will receive a split share of the LP booty, even if they are in the allied militia.



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.

Correct? No?


Idk but Ive already run across FEDEF scrubs trying to "crash" my offensive plexes. I'm the only one in system, there are clearly no other WT's within 3 jumps minimally, they can see the beacon is already up, they have you on scan and still enter the plex. I initiate a convo and tell them to open their own plex and go away. 2 seperate incidences, one chooses to bugger off and the other gets belligerent before getting another warning, dying and going full ****** in local. /o\
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#11 - 2012-05-23 20:16:50 UTC
Yogsoloth wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
First:

Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing? I'm concerned that people will try to offensive plex, and at the very last moment, another militia member will come into the plex and get credit for finishing it without asking for permission.

Second:

If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?

I'm asking because the devblog on the FW overhaul says this;

Quote:
If the killing blow belongs to someone in a fleet, all eligible members will receive a split share of the LP booty, even if they are in the allied militia.



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.

Correct? No?


Idk but Ive already run across FEDEF scrubs trying to "crash" my offensive plexes. I'm the only one in system, there are clearly no other WT's within 3 jumps minimally, they can see the beacon is already up, they have you on scan and still enter the plex. I initiate a convo and tell them to open their own plex and go away. 2 seperate incidences, one chooses to bugger off and the other gets belligerent before getting another warning, dying and going full ****** in local. /o\


Hmm..too bad they're not in a corp otherwise you could just wardec them without loss of penalty. I'm hoping CCP will find a way to minimize the alt griefing that may arise from this.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
CARB0N FIBER
Derailleurs
#12 - 2012-05-23 20:30:17 UTC
Hrett wrote:
Dirk Smacker wrote:
(edit do to poor readingz)

I have another question: It was mentioned previously you can get LP for plexing in the other warzone. What corp gives you that LP? Yours or the other militia?


If the deb blog is accurate - yours. If a caldari and amarr both do an amarr plex together, one gets caldari LP the other gets Amarr LP.


Maybe this changed, but we did not get standings for running minmatar plexes. Standings were only awarded for running gall plexes. I would assume lp would work the same.


<-gall alt
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#13 - 2012-05-23 21:37:59 UTC
You have to be within capture range to get LP, kind of screws over any tacklers/close range ships gaurding the warpin in smaller gangs. If its a blob fight the LP you get is negligible.

With kills, I do believe you have to be in the same fleet as the person that gets the killing blow and on grid to receive LP. Killed a naga/cane today and got LP for the naga but not the cane. Some frigs that weren't in fleet got the killmail for the cane so likely they got LP for it.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#14 - 2012-05-23 21:54:23 UTC
I've been getting LP for running Minmatar plexes.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#15 - 2012-05-24 03:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Deen Wispa wrote:
First:

Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing? I'm concerned that people will try to offensive plex, and at the very last moment, another militia member will come into the plex and get credit for finishing it without asking for permission.

Second:

If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?

I'm asking because the devblog on the FW overhaul says this;

Quote:
If the killing blow belongs to someone in a fleet, all eligible members will receive a split share of the LP booty, even if they are in the allied militia.



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.

Correct? No?



There will be lots of friendly killing if they get to share your lp if on grid. I will find out all on the weekend when I actually undock.

The kill LP I don't know - If I ever actually get a kill again I'll let you know.

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#16 - 2012-05-24 07:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
IbanezLaney wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
First:

Does a person have to be in your fleet in order to get LP for a plex you are capturing? I'm concerned that people will try to offensive plex, and at the very last moment, another militia member will come into the plex and get credit for finishing it without asking for permission.

Second:

If an allied or friendly militia pilot isn't in fleet but kills an enemy militia pilot with the killing blow, does he get LP for the kill?

I'm asking because the devblog on the FW overhaul says this;

Quote:
If the killing blow belongs to someone in a fleet, all eligible members will receive a split share of the LP booty, even if they are in the allied militia.



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I'm interpreting the devblog as saying two things;

1- You only get LP for the kill if you're in fleet.
2- No one gets LP if the killing blow is from someone outside of the fleet.

Correct? No?



There will be lots of friendly killing if they get to share your lp if on grid. I will find out all on the weekend when I actually undock.

The kill LP I don't know - If I ever actually get a kill again I'll let you know.


Confirmed it tonight.

You will get LP for a kill if you're in fleet and on grid. You don't even have to aggress the person at all as long as you meet the two conditions I just stated. I do wish they would change it so that you get LP if you also aggressed the person in addition to the other conditions

And I would hope they make it so that you're in fleet and on the button to get the LP for the plex. I had an FDU noob on the button who was not part of our fleet.

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