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Rogue Drones Nerf: A Bit Too Far?

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Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-05-21 12:07:43 UTC
Whiskey 01 wrote:
CCP Affinity wrote:
There is still on-going development with the rogue drones. They will get *something* from your list above but for now, I am not telling you what :)


I live in low sec, never going to drone space. Your answer would really **** me off if I lived in drone space.

No answer would be better then that response.


I lived in Nul sec, in the drone regions. I think these changes were only slightly better than when they dropped alloys.

These changes are FAR worse than when you could warp to an anom and pop all 4 bunkers at once to get all the spawns happening. The community agree'd that is was the best also, for it saw the lowest prices for ships i have ever seen.

Now look at the cost of everything. People have to PVE for far longer than before just to be able to get into a ship they want.

Add in **** poor bounties, no sec status changes, no loot, no excitement, no interest, no players
TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-05-22 09:31:14 UTC
Gath'ran Gammigan wrote:
First of all, thank you CCP for doing the much needed step of removing DPS-mining for minerals. It was a massive flow for minerals into the game and was seriously depriving EVE of mining as a serious profession *snicker*.

It seems though that residents of these regions have been given a bit of a shorter stick.

(A) Drones do not drop any loot of any kind. No meta items, no T1, no random ammunition caches. This ranks them significantly below the other races where ratting is concerned, considering the market value of some meta items. They do not make up for this with extraordinary salvage or anything like that either.

(B) The 'faction' Drone spawns drop components and T2 salvage. Things used in building. Again, if the plan was to bring Drones in line with the other factions, why not have them drop faction modules of some kind that are immediately useable?

(C) Drone anomalies are limited in variety and do not have escalations. <-- Seriously, this is bad, mmkay.

(D) No Drone space complexes. <--- Sadface

(E) No officer spawns that I've heard of <--- More sadness.

(F) No security status increase for killing the drones. <--- Though this is the least important of all of them, it's kinda still missing.

I can't help but think that the Drone regions have been a little over nerfed now. I'll try to collect some more data on sites and spawns as I have higher military index data available.

Has anyone else seen problems with Drone ratting so far? Please do post your observations, even if you disagree with me on some of the above or have information that I do not have yet.

Most importantly, will CCP be going back to address these issues if they are found to be legitimate ones? As it currently stands, I see people moving away from using these regions of space in favour of neighbouring ones, or even highsec.




What do you mean drone anoms don't have escalations?? Drone hordes and patrols give out 10/10s... I have two in my journal right now. Also, the drone combat explore sites have a chance to escalate. I agree with your other points though.
Gath'ran Gammigan
Corpmates.
Memento Moriendo
#23 - 2012-05-22 17:47:19 UTC
TotalRapeage wrote:
Gath'ran Gammigan wrote:


Has anyone else seen problems with Drone ratting so far? Please do post your observations, even if you disagree with me on some of the above or have information that I do not have yet.




What do you mean drone anoms don't have escalations?? Drone hordes and patrols give out 10/10s... I have two in my journal right now. Also, the drone combat explore sites have a chance to escalate. I agree with your other points though.


Aye cheers for pointing it out. From the fresh data I have gathered so far, the only escalation worth running is the 10/10 Outgrowth Rogue Drone Hive, however even this has a lower payout in comparison to other 10/10s, and with no drops, no Officer loot, and diminished salvage (more and more it seems like this is the case), the site isn't worth all that much (reports indicate 800m tops).

Does this sound accurate?
Terza Torre
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-05-22 22:04:00 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
[quote=Whiskey 01][quote=CCP Affinity]There is still on-going development with the rogue drones. They will ...
We haven't 100% confirmed what we will be doing - we will discuss it when it is more final. I just wanted to let the community know we hadn't forgotten and will be doing something more with them.


This is really a great news TYVM!

I tried to give drones plexing a real chance after the last pacthes but the situation is really terrible:
in addition to no loot at all only very very rare DED 3 plexes are found in 0.0 and they never drop anything, seems to be there just for discouraging us.

If you are lucky enough to make the full Hyerarchy escalation you took at least three hours for 100 mill loot at best.

The magnetometric and radar sites are awful: 30 to 45 mins to finsh those just to get nothing at all or, very rarely, 1 drone BPC that is worth 5 mill....

Please give us a stanadard set of plexes with faction items like others ty Big smile

TT
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#25 - 2012-05-22 23:23:29 UTC
Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:
It's a shocking idea, I know, but maybe regions aren't supposed to be all equally desirable.


Man said it it all right here using as few words as possible, if I could like this post 20 times with one click I would.
Charlie Conway
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-05-23 23:56:25 UTC
You take away all those juicy alloys and make every anom a grav site. Where all the RAD/MAG sites be at yo?
Tikera Tissant
#27 - 2012-05-24 09:19:41 UTC
I'll also add that drone region was a nice place to build stuff because of the drones alloys.

Now, without it, and the lack of some critical minerals in the area, its a pretty useless zone really.
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
#28 - 2012-05-26 03:44:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rip Minner
I see alot of pilots going tuff luck.

But come on it's 0.0 and right now it's worth less then any space in the game High sec included.

That's just wrong and you know it.

I'm mostly a High sec/Worm hole kind of guy but for 0.0 that's just wrong.

And I do mean that from a fighter pilot point of view.

Yes there are Moons and Rocks there and less figher pilots would make it that much easyer for people to hit up Moons and Rocks but still.

Edit: But a cool ideal would be killing and salvaging Rogue Drones for parts to build Tech 3 Drones. Hellz Yes! That would be the something to get me out of high sec/wormholes. I love drones all ways have :) I know it will not happen but it would be something differnt from every other 0.0 space. Or even Tech 2 Fighter/Bomer drones for Carriers/SC's. That would fire up some hot and heavy wars in Drone space I bet too. :)

And before you shoot down the Tech 2 Figher/Bomer ideal it do's not mean Tech 2 fighter/bomer's would have to have more dps it could mean just better speed/less bandwith/drone bay space as well.

Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here.
Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-05-26 10:24:45 UTC
I think the way it has been handled has been a complete joke. Still an ongoing development? please.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-05-27 18:52:52 UTC
Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:
It's a shocking idea, I know, but maybe regions aren't supposed to be all equally desirable.


I agree. For example, the Null Space the Goons are in has been very, very valuable for a long time.

I think all Tech Moons should be removed from it.

Shake things up a bit.

NOTE:
I am perfectly serious.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-05-27 18:54:41 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:
It's a shocking idea, I know, but maybe regions aren't supposed to be all equally desirable.


Man said it it all right here using as few words as possible, if I could like this post 20 times with one click I would.


So CCP's goal is to NOT balance Risk and Reward now?

Be careful, Goon. You have to stay on message.
Gally Alita
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-29 15:12:01 UTC
Return of the Rogue Drone

Coming soon..
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