EVE General Discussion

If I wanted to play a noob I'd build a UI like this, alas I have no desire to have my brain removed or to be artificialy limited in capability by a UI designed Captain QWERTY, who's great great great grandfather designed the QWERTY layout to be the most inneficiet layout for use.

This hanger change has QWERTY written all over it on so many levels that they have all appeared to escaped you.

Either you haev not logged on, only have one ship or have a doctor sponsored by vicadin.

I would say go troll elsewere but I heard you were banned from using the company toilets unsupervised for some reason the lawyers seem unable to openly talk about.

This is a totally unneeded change. Why make things more complicated with more menus (loving how even guns at pos's etc show up in drop down menu.....)

Whats wrong with little boxes minimized and seperatly configured Boxes for my Hanger/ ship arrays etc etc. Living out of a pos now having to scroll through an often laggy menu to right click and OPen seperate Window just so i can transfer stuff from ship to hanger etc is long winded.

So now instead of neat managble windows. i have to make at least 2 very un-neat and tidy. stretch them half way over my page so i can flick through menu and try to find the one i want.

What ever genius came up with this idea, needs all his friends at CCP to bombard his Inbox with messages on how his latest idea was an epic failure.

Mine is still working great, are you guys sure you know how to use computers?

Guess your in a really small minority then. They where asked in the test feedback to give ppl the choice to switch to the new system, but said no. They were told it would kick off but they ignored.

So you reap what you sow.

Tal

Dude, stop spamming every single thread ffs

Tippia made an excellent video that show cased two things (Thank you again Tip):

1: Some legitimate issues. Seperate windows need to update automatially when items are added or subtracted. Windows you have placed need to stay in place and not close on session changes. CCP was made aware that these tweaks need to be made.

2: He, like many others, is addicted to having a half dozen windows open on their desktop. So much so that he instictively closed the tree that was 1/2 inch away from the items he was working with in favor of dragging items all the way across the screen to a different (vision obscuring) window.

He (and many apparently) is so used to working by dragging back and forth from window to window they completely overlook the far simpler option right in front of them... dragging to the tree.

So yes, if you wish to have a separate window open to monitor levels (and truthfully to confirm you haven't screwed up and dropped items where they don't belong) the update quickly issue needs to be resolved, and windows closing on session change needs to be quickly addressed.

Claiming that dragging 1/2 inch to a tree is unusable compared to dragging items all the way across your desktop to one of a multitude of vision obscuring windows is a more than a bit silly. There are likely a few more tweaks that I have not listed that will need to happen in the very near future (such as customizing the filtering of what is shown in the tree view more precisely), but these are minor issues.

Stop trying to automatically do things in the same cumbersome way you have in the past. Engage your brain, think about what you are doing, and you will find that once you get used to the tree being there it is far more user friendly than before... whether you like to leave a plethora of windows open to "monitor" things or not.

Am getting used to it already (like it). Some bugs in it - for example empty a can in space and the window stays open, and items are visible inside it. Also sometimes if you've got your ship and a can in space and click on the ship node from the can, it doesn't show anything. Closing the window and opening it again sorts the problem. There's also an issue with it sometimes not remembering the window position for shift-click windows. All bugs that can be worked out.

All in all, it's a win :).

Yeah, I think the refresh function currently is tied to clicking on the tree view as I mentioned above. That needs to be sorted.

And yes, the windows need to stay put after session change.

My main posted from Day One about every single one of these issues and others, led mostly and amazingly by Tippia, filled that up to over 20 pages.

I will never ever again bother to help CCP avert a disaster. I'm beyond caring anymore for what they do.

It is exactly your experience of test server feedback for why I dont offer feedback on the test server anymore; Sad isn't it but like most people I already have a entire room in my house dedicated to rendering urine up a wall without doing the electronic version of it by offering common-sence and utterly valid feedback to test-server. Reason I suspect is that they assume somebody else is fixing it or that somebody else is responsible in dealing with it and ignore everything.

If they spent as much time reading feedback and logging it and taking it onboard as they do closing threads about people offering feedback then this would not of happened.

When you have a simple drag A to B facility and then change it into a 15 stack towers-of-hanoi with disc 13 missing and force people to play that every single time they wish to move a single item like A to B leading them to play A to Q to W to E to R to T to Y to to U to U to I to O to........to B then how hard is it to ignore everybodies feedback.



All I can say is that whoever handles the test server feedback is in need of a reality check as they have clearly embraced the Dunning Kruger Effect to a level that will only lead to this whole event being listed as an example for on that very wiki for generations to lament.