Jita Park Speakers Corner

Ship Balance & Iteration - The CSM will sit down with the ~balance bros~ and talk about spaceship power grids and CPUs and slot layouts and all that good stuff.

It was not a good choice to make T3s better than specialized-role ships. Look at command ships, especially. T3s have all but killed command ships - I hope this was not the intention? Boost specialized-role ships or nerf T3s in their special roles.

I find myself confused by the Bombardment ship line. I'd have thought that it would apply to all long ranged boats, and not just missiles. Does it only apply to missile boats or am I mistaken there?

There was a new ORE skill book created for the noctis, extending its use to all ORE ships makes all the sence of the world.

Please consider a nerf to t3 battlecruisers as they have all but obsoleted hacs in small gang pvp.

Yeah, and we can still get huge ships sunk by canoes, and high-tech armies pinned and stalemated by skinny turnip-eaters with 40 year old guns, a better knowledge of the landscape, and nothing to lose. The Spanish Armada got whupped. Pride goes before a fall.

This is already possible in EVE, to some extent, and that's part of the beauty of the game: If you play your cards right, you can take down a Tornado in a rookie ship. You can take down a Megathron in a crazily fit Iteron. Neither is easy, nor likely, but as long as they're possible, EVE has its particular charm.

I think they should have roles be advisory, but they should consider the way each faction's ships work together with their preferred weapon systems, instead of having cross-cultural categories (granted, there will be a lot of overlap, but that's just the nature of battle). If some frigate--say, the Tristan--doesn't fit into any particular category, find something good for it to do--solo brawling, maybe--and make it good at that.

Myrm needs 100mbit/s bandwidth, Brutix and Hype their missing low slots.
Drone boats need to receive bonuses to all drones, not just combat drones.
All HACs and mining ships need a bit more HP.
Rails need a slight buff to dps.

Thus balance was achieved, and everything was well under the stars.

Honestly i think this whole role thing is silly...

what ccp should be doing is look at each ship as a unique butterfly... figure out why it works why it does not work and then fill in the blanks... weather that be more slots better ship bonus and so on... trying to put ships into a specific role is just as bad as the tier system was because it limits the game...

My only request for ship rebalance would be for CCP to remember that there are such things in the game as drone boats. Which very few people use, and for very specific things. The drone damage module added today is a step in the right direction, but drones and drone boats are still in AWFUL state. Still no drone damage implants, after what, 4 years? Drone UI is scary bad. Etc.

When it comes to ship balance, I just want them to remember drone boats, and perhaps repurpose some unused hulls for drone boats. I believe at FanFest they mentioned maybe turning Prophecy into a large Abritrator? That would be neat. A drone marauder for Gallente would be a neat idea as well. Making Proteus function well with drones would be nice, though I'm guessing T3 rebalance will happen promptly after the cows come home and finish milking themselves.

In other words, "Remember the drone boats!" is what I'm trying to say.

The intention is to introduce a new ORE mining frigate, I hear.

I like the idea, but not sure they should have removed just the one race's mining frigate and before the ORE ship is ready. No racial mining ships in the future it seems.

Personally I think the Procurer would make a good replacement for the mining frigates, just drop the requirements substantially (remove some of the Mining Barge prereqs and put them on the Retriever and Covetor). Make it the pay off for the Industry tutorial perhaps. Gap between the Retriever and Covetor could be dropped (Mining Barge IV), and the gap between the Covetor and Hulk increased. (Reducing the Covetor's Mining Barge requirement to IV would probably do this fine.)

The rest of the tutorial is doable with a standard frigate I think. May have some cargo capacity issues, should be easily fixable with some tweaking if that's the case.

While they are at working on Mining Barges and Exhumers, I think powergrid and perhaps CPU should be revisited. Ridiculously tight.