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Who thought Active Ship/Ship/Item Hanger merge was a GOOD idea? REALLY?
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JEZEB
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-22 14:16:22 UTC
It always amazes me when something takes two steps back from functionality. This game already is counter intuitive to begin with, now we have to deal with EXTRA clicks to move around the menus to find crap in our inventories? Really? How many times must this have come up during development as a bad idea?

I can't believe huge mistakes to little things like this even happen. Who tested this and said, "Oh yeah, making the UI even clunkier is a grand idea, let us make the game less playable than it already is."

Good job, you get your paycheck you idiot that thought this idea up.

Now put it back the way it friggin' was or at least let me drag what I want to the bar.

How is making me click MORE going to HELP? It's what patches do, is make the game BETTER... oh wait, forgot what industry we're dealing with here.
Iamien
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-05-22 14:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Iamien
The problem they tried to solve was having multiple windows for multiple containers open at once, they see this as intimidating/confusing to new players.

They solved it by having ALL containers open at once within one window. This works unless the pilot has access to many more containers they don't care about than they do ones they do, which is a common occurrence for experienced players.

This fix is simply under-engineered slightly. They need t allow us to filter by container type.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#3 - 2012-05-22 14:22:29 UTC
I just tried to double click on another ship in my hangar and it made it the active one, which confused me for a moment there as the active ship actually vanishes from the hangar now instead of being highlighted. Bad design idea that one as well.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-22 14:23:37 UTC
It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
JEZEB
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-22 14:33:31 UTC
My point was: Why take something that worked fine and change it for the worse?

How do people get paid to do this? MORE clicks in a game is never good. And who gives a crap about this being good for PVP? Have you PVP'ed with this change yet? It's not just the inventory that has changed. Go play, then come back with knowledge to discuss.

It's moronic to have something that is so modular, like this game, and then take something away and say, "Ok, now this isn't going to be so easy to customize."

I do like that the ship is now double clickable to make active, that rocks, but why have more than one menu for ships? Active or Non-Active? Really? All my ships are in the same hanger no matter what right?

Did nobody bring this type of thing up during development?

9 YEARS!! How do you still F S UP?!?!
Diamonica Norya
Pro Synergy
#6 - 2012-05-22 14:37:24 UTC
The ghost that haunted us with the idea of EveOS is back, look at the inventory window.

It looks like my file explorer window with "My Pictures/Videos" open, except it had the look but also achieved usability scale of...
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1/10
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2012-05-22 14:43:26 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
I just tried to double click on another ship in my hangar and it made it the active one, which confused me for a moment there as the active ship actually vanishes from the hangar now instead of being highlighted. Bad design idea that one as well.



ffs CCP, some of us have more than one of the same hull

*shakes head.....*
Cedar Locus
Fleet 2 die
#8 - 2012-05-22 14:52:43 UTC
it was CCP Arrow

CCP Arrow wrote:
Hey this is great Big smile I lol'd out loud
Gallinari
PJ Ind.
#9 - 2012-05-22 14:55:20 UTC
Yea I understand what they were trying to do but in all honestly for someone like me who goes system to system with his Orca and 5 ships inside of it with all different types of cargo, its a nightmare.
Count Austheim
Redemption Denied
#10 - 2012-05-22 15:01:55 UTC
Atleast let us have the option to change to the classical hangar setup.

For me having a buttload of ships, this is not working too well. Even worse when i load things into my Rorqual and Carriers.

If this ships a´rockin, then im strangling someone....

http://count-austheim.blogspot.com
Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-22 15:04:31 UTC
EPIC CCP fail!

You failed to target nothing! ≡v≡ online ... (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
MindLife
#12 - 2012-05-22 15:09:04 UTC
WTF IS THIS ****...

Confusing crap made by noobs at CCP..

Get rid of this and get the old system back in.. This is not bad, IT IS REALLY BAD... Evil

Dont steal my coffee !!
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#13 - 2012-05-22 15:11:41 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............

How should this new inventory help pvp? it is **** and now i've a big ******* window instead of a really small one to pop booster from.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 
Zenst
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-05-22 15:41:28 UTC
I concur the hanger change is a pile of stinking cack.

Old system fine, worked, new system, utter fraggin nightmare of spazticated ****.

Tried making ship active and then watch it vanish, change location, let alone move stuff into the right ships cargo hold, thats once managed to refind it every time and then had to purchase a 2nd monitor just to open the cargo hold it was that big of empty nothingness.

Out of all the changes in all the patch's in all the world, please take this peace of stinking cack back out and give me the old system or the option to use it.

It is utterly unusable and if there is a way to use it then it takes alot longer that frankly whoever you have doing your GUI design needs to basicly be told what a frellin GUI is and made to actualy play the fraggin game FFS.


No you cant have my stuff as i would need the old hanger system to even stand a chance of doing that.


Wasted 1gig of internet download IMHO, I could of got a good quality porn movie for that Roll
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#15 - 2012-05-22 15:42:31 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............


I PVP exclusively and I think it's bollocks. Lern2Tinfoil.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Zenst
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-05-22 15:58:39 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
I just tried to double click on another ship in my hangar and it made it the active one, which confused me for a moment there as the active ship actually vanishes from the hangar now instead of being highlighted. Bad design idea that one as well.




Yes and its is utterly unuseable, like playing rusion roulete with a toilet and a powerdrill - it makes no sence.

ROLLBACK the UI

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CCCP - Couldn't organise a meal in McDonalds - hence McDonalds Iceland closed. ENough said.

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Zenst
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-05-22 16:11:44 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............


I PVP exclusively and I think it's bollocks. Lern2Tinfoil.



I PVP and I also have a industrial account. BOTH of them agree with you fully that it is bollocks.
Touchingcloth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-22 16:19:31 UTC
MindLife wrote:
WTF IS THIS ****...

Confusing crap made by noobs at CCP..

Get rid of this and get the old system back in.. This is not bad, IT IS REALLY BAD... Evil



Look they are not noobs, they have been screwing crap up like this for years......


Cant Code Properly
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-05-22 16:23:13 UTC
Going out take a nice fresh pint.

Be back for awesome reading later, Lol

"Courage" boys and galls, you need it if you try to play right now Blink

brb
Hicksimus
Torgue
#20 - 2012-05-22 16:26:02 UTC
I love it, you guys should spend less time bitching on here and more time learning to play. noobs.

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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