Warfare & Tactics

both cost over 1 billion to isk. both are gallente/minmatar ships. both are battleships. my main question is which one would do better for solo pvp? i like them both and both require the same skills. i like projectiles much more, but i am more than willing to use blasters if they would be more efficient. i also see that the vinny has 25 more bandwidth for drones. is this significant enough to choose over the mach?

i havent done solo pvp in a BS but i have been told by more than a few people that its viable. was i mislead? or should i just make sure someone in a battlecruiser is with me or something

What kind of PvP?

Gate and station camping, I'd say Vindie is better, since it's a 'In your face action, (Massive dps Blasters/Webs) kind of PvP.

Fights over planets/moons/roid belts/deadspace then I would say the Mach, since once they are pointed you can kite them to death and they can't de-agress and jump/dock.

That being said - You still need to actually lock and point them BEFORE they just warp off.

If you're roaming in unfamiliar territory the mach because as said it has much more mobility making it easier to disengage. For that reason it is more limited in the targets it can take though.

The vindi however with 90% webs can take on even frigate gangs but your only option for disengagement is deagressing and jumping/docking because you fight at point blank. So I would only use it solo in situations that I had enough intel or awareness to know I wont get blobbed and may commit to a fight I'll either win or die.

Both can tank about 1000 dps with 1 bil in fittings and exile/blue pill booster.

Most ppl running Solo BS are running links

First off, either of those ships are going to run you closer to 4 bil after fitting. Second, if you do not understand the differences between them, the situations they should be used for, and the limitations of what they can do you have no business even thinking about flying them yet.

Pirate faction battleships (and especially solo pirate faction battleships) are for pilots who have a wealth of experience to draw upon. Even then, they are very rarely the right tool for the job.

PS: Those awesome PVP videos you see of a vindi soloing 30 guys are in most cases a 100% max skilled pilot with an officer fit, high grade pirate implants, top tier drugs, and T3 links fighting the absolute worst pilots you can find in the game. Even with all that expense, they die 20 times trying to get the one fight to put on youtube. I can not count how many players with no combat experience fly down to Syndicate and lose multi-billion isk ships within minutes because they think that they can take on anything just like in the videos.

i guess it would have been nice for you to read the part where i said in the long term, as in no where near now. i dont plan on flying one of those for a long ass time. and i do understand the difference in how they are used, i was asking which one people preferred for solo pvp and why. if you would have read the ******* question then you wouldnt have needed to waste your time telling me **** that i, and everyone else, already know.

i like the slave set bonus or armor. a plate and some armor rigs make some pretty amazing EHP

I was going to say the same thing. Use this as mach training. Also, get a dual rep mega if you're wanting to go the vindi route. GL

Neither one is all that great until you fit them top to bottom with the best faction, deadspace and officer mods you can afford. Oh yeah, if you can't use T2 drones just get the navy ones they're just as good if not much better. Once that bad boy is worth about 5 billion you will be king of the low sec asteroid belts.