These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Unified Winferno is now live - and it sucks as much it did on test server

First post
Author
Rrama Ratamnim
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#141 - 2012-05-22 14:11:11 UTC
i posted most of my comments in test feedback

and i had said as many are saying now... that the anger would be about the 1 main thing

BRING SHORTCUTS!

We need the old shortcuts back, i love the new inventory! But we need the old right click and button shortcuts back... just make them open the respective target in a non-sidebar'd inventory window of that respective targets folder... tada EVERYONE HAPPY.

That and more work on remembering position and window states.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#142 - 2012-05-22 14:19:48 UTC
Whatever. I left my feedback before this **** hit live, now I'm in skill-training mode until Winferno unfucks itself.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Space Olympics LLC
#143 - 2012-05-22 14:26:47 UTC
Seriously CCP the inventory thing would have been fine as an additional feature, not as the way to access our stuff. I really dont remember seeing threads and threads of how do i access my inventory, so why did you change it??? Ive only been online 30 mins and i already have a huge distaste for this new inventory system. I used to click one button and be right where i wanted, now im clicking multiple times, then shift clicking and then doing something else. Fix this stupid ****...
Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#144 - 2012-05-22 14:44:22 UTC
The new inventory system takes up more of your screen, and takes longer to get to stuff.

It would be a good optional feature, but it is a horrible for main way to get to things that violates basic HCI design principles.

Looking cool for a UI should never take priority over functionality. I guess I incorrectly assumed that your experience last summer with CQ would have taught you that lesson CCP.
Shimrod Murgenson
z-inc.
#145 - 2012-05-22 14:50:53 UTC
If only i could MOVE my stuff from one hanger to the next..


but that function seems to be overrated..

Sellendis
The Ares project
#146 - 2012-05-22 14:53:33 UTC
And all we wanted was tabs in station cargo window like we have in corp hangar.
But noooo, lets complicate that and make station, ship, drone, containers, corp hangar, ship hangar all in one window.

Its like taking all 999 (for me at least) files in Eve folder and sticking all of them in root of C:, unified folder for easy access.... and screw visibility.

Nicely played CCP, ignored feedback as usual. Do we occupy Jita again?
Tawn Maihac
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2012-05-22 14:56:31 UTC
Guess it's time to play something else untill they fix the bugs out if this one.

No use playing if the inventory system doesn't let me move items around at all.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#148 - 2012-05-22 15:00:10 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'd just like to confirm that "winferno" is indeed going to be awesome.


care to bet your paycheck on that?
Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#149 - 2012-05-22 15:02:40 UTC
I am playing d3 until they improve this unified inventory to my satisfaction... I did leave feed back before you released this thing

Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759 Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934

Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#150 - 2012-05-22 15:05:13 UTC
Doesn't bother me, its pretty much windows, click one folder, select item(s), drag to the other folder. I'm not sure what the issue is but I don't have my own hangars like the big boys....I am assuming the procedure is the same though.

So close...

Indalecia
#151 - 2012-05-22 15:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Indalecia
First impression:

CCP, could you have used an even DARKER shade of gray for the TITLES in the inventory window? It's really unreadable and making my eyes hurt.

Also, while I do appreciate the capacity to open stuff in a new window (with shift-click), the windows opened that way should remember their position and keep opened when docking/undocking.

https://o.smium.org/ — v0.13.5 — A browser-based fitting tool and loadout sharing platform

Jajas Helper
#152 - 2012-05-22 15:21:11 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Holy christ that video from Tippia is infuriating, why does he keep closing the tree, do you not get that the tree is what makes the ease of navigation, that simply clicking on a particular tree marker erases the need to clutter your screen with windows, you don't NEED to have that **** open all over the place like that, its all neatly bundled into one package.

The filters allow you to go one farther and only see the parts you need most at any one time like, its baffling watching him do that over and over when its just like, leave the tree open and stop screwing around.

I can sympathize in most instances where players have called something wrong or bad but in this instance it just looks like players begging for a new UI and then complaining when that new UI comes with an altered (more functional less cluttered) functionality that they need to adjust to.



not everyone has a big screen: overview- scanner- local - intel channel- cargo - cap booster contain! (pewpew) - selected item and locked target images already take up 50+% of my screen, adding another tree stack is reducing my already limited view....

I welcome this update and the tree stack if you buy me a screen which makes up for the lost space that i now have to organize my needed window layout..

thanks

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-

Jita Check Monkey
Doomheim
#153 - 2012-05-22 15:28:22 UTC
What sucks Donkey D***.........

New inventory sucks Donkey D***

That is all
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#154 - 2012-05-22 15:29:19 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Whatever. I left my feedback before this **** hit live, now I'm in skill-training mode until Winferno unfucks itself.



More or less this and not loosing anything worthy IG for sure. However forum posting and contribute to this community while playing (other) funny stuff is always a good experience Lol

brb

beast rage
Federated Terra.
#155 - 2012-05-22 15:33:36 UTC
the new inventory sucks it complicates what used to be easy and simple
Jajas Helper
#156 - 2012-05-22 15:34:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jajas Helper
also,

comfirming that ccp could have done a great job by just letting up setup filters and optional tree stack so the people who would benifit from this could use it when need- corp hangar and maybe cap/pos space arrangements -

now we are going to have a few weeks of forum whine until ccp allows the new system to reproduce the old way of things for 90% of the things we do in eve: Multiple windows that allow us a quick overview of what items we have.

As pointed out before, it takes more time to use the current tree stack and find the things you need in personal hangar, containers. Now i open new windows for containers through the tree stack, instead of before - selecting my station containers and opening all 10 of them at the same time ( select 10 containers- open all). They used to open up 5 x 2... now it takes me 10 ******* open new window clicks and then dragging them around so i can see everything properly; that all instead of 2 clicks+ right menu click that it used to take.

I'm sorry i don't know what is in every tree tab - container/ship by memory :( i needs to open them and view them to see what is in there, and i'm even more sorry that i don't know what every item's volume is - calculating how much ammo of each type, 5 different ones, it takes to fill up my cargo...
- if you too need to open up a new window of your ships cargo, you proved that the new tree stacking thing does not work, as you are reproducing the old way of doing things, because it was faster?

anyway,
add functions not rewrite the intire thing and then even ******* that up... and give us a choice to use them when they would actually be useful - faster then what is already being used.

ps: i'm not mad, just takes 10 times longer to do quick simple tasks... which is just annoying and disappointing

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-

beast will Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2012-05-22 15:38:29 UTC
beast rage wrote:
the new inventory sucks it complicates what used to be easy and simple



my thoughts exactly training mode till this is fixed or my account runs out which ever comes first
Jita Check Monkey
Doomheim
#158 - 2012-05-22 15:39:17 UTC
Jajas Helper wrote:

ps: i'm not mad, just takes 10 times longer to do quick simple tasks... which is just annoying and disappointing



Confirming i am MAD about this.

No you may not aquire my belongings id rather trash them, although that will take me 10x longer to do now Shocked
Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2012-05-22 15:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Roxwar
After ALL the neg feedback on this over on Sisi, and you STILL push it out onto Tranq and expect people to just get on with it?

Did last years events not burn a big enough image on your brains regarding how not to pi**off 99% of your player base with stupid idea's that were very well documented in the feedback forums?

Seriously, i have no sympathy for you guys sometimes as you appear to be your own worst enemy.

Fix the inventory system ASAP please, or at the very least give us the option to disable via settings just like you did with CQ.

I'll be off playing D3 while you CCP dudes fix this mess. I didnt want that easy to navigate inventory system anyway Evil

Oh, and good work on the window popping up after every jump, bravo.
Jajas Helper
#160 - 2012-05-22 15:40:57 UTC
Jita Check Monkey wrote:
Jajas Helper wrote:

ps: i'm not mad, just takes 10 times longer to do quick simple tasks... which is just annoying and disappointing



Confirming i am MAD about this.

No you may not aquire my belongings id rather trash them, although that will take me 10x longer to do now Shocked


Quoting for truth*

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-