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is speaking your mind wrong
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NickyYo
modro
Northern Coalition.
#21 - 2012-05-21 18:15:32 UTC
budlight12 wrote:
well i have gone though a few forums here and found that a hand full of players that dare to speak there minds and then got trolled or even talking about something else and got trolled

well i know that i not taking sides but still is the goal to run players off this game or what


That's what these forums are like, i get trolled in every thread i post, but i don't care.
I just post more, it p.i.s.s.e.s them off even more and it works!

..
budlight12
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-05-21 18:19:50 UTC
well in some cases yes but i see the newer poster get trolled more then the older ones
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#23 - 2012-05-21 18:20:46 UTC
budlight12 wrote:
well in some cases yes but i see the newer poster get trolled more then the older ones



Best way to approach this board. Hate them all back. Works for me. Pirate
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#24 - 2012-05-21 18:23:01 UTC
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/whiners-vs-pach-attack/729997

The above is a very informative link about the difference between a whiner and a complainer. After you watch it you will realize that we have an overabundance of the former, many of which have already posted in this thread. By the end of it hopefully you will see that you can have an opinion and that you can voice it constructively. Also I hope that you will learn that not everybody will necessarily agree with the opinion though that does not make it wrong, it only makes it your opinion.

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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-05-21 18:25:21 UTC
WTF, you people are still talking? GTFO of here!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#26 - 2012-05-21 18:26:31 UTC
Try to not post in General Discussion if you want intelligent responses.

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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-05-21 18:27:18 UTC
(crickets) (crickets)

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
budlight12
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-05-21 18:28:10 UTC
well if i wanted that i would post on the MIT web site
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-05-21 18:30:46 UTC
budlight12 wrote:
well i have gone though a few forums here and found that a hand full of players that dare to speak there minds and then got trolled or even talking about something else and got trolled

well i know that i not taking sides but still is the goal to run players off this game or what


Posting a well thought out argument for something a large number of players might want will decrease your chances of getting trolled by about 2.1% or so. But it will usually generate some thoughtful responses in reply.

Speaking your mind (which usually means an emotional brain fart about getting ganked or some such) will ensure a nearly perfect troll record.

Either way, you need a fairly thick skin and the ability to ignore the chaff and find the wheat.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2012-05-21 18:34:27 UTC
Savage Angel wrote:
Speaking your mind (which usually means an emotional brain fart about getting ganked or some such) will ensure a nearly perfect troll record.

Wait, did the OP lose a freighter to Burn Jita, or a hulk to Hulkageddon?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Leetha Layne
#31 - 2012-05-21 18:37:40 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera wrote:
Freedom of speech is for pussies. Now STFU, I hate you.


Besides that, how's life otherwise, you strange caterpillar you......



How can I miss you if you won't go away?


- Grouch Marx
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-21 18:40:33 UTC
Leetha Layne wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera wrote:
Freedom of speech is for pussies. Now STFU, I hate you.


Besides that, how's life otherwise, you strange caterpillar you......



How can I miss you if you won't go away?


- Grouch Marx


Gee. I've never had this much attention while trying to date even. Even Personal Hero Quotes without asking. Why, thank you. Can I have flowers next time instead ?

Maybe I should just permanently 'threaten' to 'maybe' quit, and see how that goes, what say ??

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#33 - 2012-05-21 18:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
budlight12 wrote:
well in some cases yes but i see the newer poster get trolled more then the older ones


I've seen several new player posts where what they posted about was totally uninteresting and if posted by a vet would be burned down, get lots of support and thumbs up from confirmed GD trolls

it all depends on what you say

also keep in mind that many "new players" are simply pity alts created to try and pretend that they are new customers about to unsub because of something that really happened to their main
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2012-05-21 18:47:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Ituhata Saken wrote:
AFK Hauler wrote:
You just had to say something didn't you....



I never get over your carebear stare.

The way I see it, EvE is alot like current American politics. No matter what you say about the game, whether it be constructive or non-constructive criticism or just suggestions to improve the game, someone from one side of the aisle will stand up and begin a relentless assault on why you are wrong, and why you are what's wrong with the game, and belittle you. Followed by members from the other side of the aisle counter-attacking and declaring why you are right and why the other side is what's wrong with the game. Meanwhile the rest of us watch the ensuing debate with mild interest, but everyone knows at the end of the day nothing productive ever gets done and life goes on.



I'm not sure I entirely agree; I have a couple of threads with serious proposals for major changes in the game that are, I'd say, 90% populated by positive and constructive responses. It is possible.

However.

It is the sad truth that most OPs don't really deserve much respect in the way of positive, constructive responses. They are generally badly typed, poorly constructed, lacking insight and demonstrate an incredible level of short-term self-centeredness.

So to answer the OP's question: yes, speaking your mind is wrong when your mind is lazy, lacking in knowledge and coherence, and unwilling to adapt it's viewpoints and axioms. YMMV. TANSTAAFL. All Rights Reserved.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-05-21 18:48:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Savage Angel wrote:
Speaking your mind (which usually means an emotional brain fart about getting ganked or some such) will ensure a nearly perfect troll record.

Wait, did the OP lose a freighter to Burn Jita, or a hulk to Hulkageddon?

Yeah, you wish!

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-05-21 18:51:12 UTC
Morganta wrote:
also keep in mind that many "new players" are simply pity alts created to try and pretend that they are new customers about to unsub because of something that really happened to their main

Now if only we could find a 4 day NPC corp alt "new player" complaining about losing their hulk ...Shocked

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-05-21 18:52:35 UTC
budlight12 wrote:
well if i wanted that i would post on the MIT web site



This post is why people troll you. And you deserve everything you get.

Why does everyone claim to be a real life

1. Aspie
2. Sociopath
3. High IQ

and then get upset when people troll them to death.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#38 - 2012-05-21 18:56:35 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Morganta wrote:
also keep in mind that many "new players" are simply pity alts created to try and pretend that they are new customers about to unsub because of something that really happened to their main

Now if only we could find a 4 day NPC corp alt "new player" complaining about losing their hulk ...Shocked


I was fairly impressed that I was able to get into a decently fit drake in 10 days.

So close...
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#39 - 2012-05-21 18:57:04 UTC
I speak my mind all the time. After a while, they get numb to your presence and find newer people to troll.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-05-21 18:57:58 UTC
Shhh! Your gonna get us all killed if you keep running your mouth!

Loose lips, gank spaceships!

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