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Returning after 4 years; I have a question!
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Alerion Madagasgar
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-21 16:18:18 UTC
Hi all! I played EVE for a couple of months about 4 years ago with dreams of flying a Hulk. RL got in the way of gametime and I had to quit, but I'd like to pick up where I left off.

I have less than 1.5 M skillpoints and it looks like a Hulk is still about 2 months away. In the meantime I'm jetcan mining in my Osprey and I have a few questions about making ISK and my fit.

Currently I have caldari cruiser at 3 and I'm training Astrogeology 4 right now (about 20hrs to go). I'm in 0.7 sec mining regular belts.

I have 3x mining laser 2's in my highs, with the launcher empty
Survey scanner and offline shield hardener in mid (just in case?)
1x Co-proc 1 & 2x mining laser upgrade 1's in lows
My drone skills are at 3 and I use 2x scout drones for rats and 1 mining drone.
This lets me take in 473m^3 per cycle combined.

I would really like to pay for gametime with ISK, I think it's a cool feature and I want to take advantage of it. I have a week of gametime and a PLEX is 450 mil on the market. I have about 50 mil atm, including unsold minerals.

What is my most profitable ore to mine to make up 400 mil in a week? I've been sticking with Veldspar since my processing is at 4 and I don't waste any. My other ore processing skills are 1-2. This system has a lot of Omber, Scordite and Plagioclase - would I be better of just selling the ore?

I have a Badger that can haul 16,600m^3 that I shuttle ore from the belts to the station with and also to stations that have better prices for minerals (3-5 jumps).

Should I train Caldari Cruiser up for use in the meantime, since a Hulk is so far off?

Lastly, I have a couple of neural remaps available. Does anyone have a link for the optimal attributes for my race/bloodline to become a badass miner or know offhand?

Thanks a lot for any input!
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2012-05-21 16:35:30 UTC
I think...with better skills and the hulk, you might make 4 million an hr mining. (Right now I bet it is much less.)

That translates into 100 hrs for 400 million isk. Much more than a week is needed to plex your account. And plex's are closer to 500 than they are to 400.
You need to think about the concept of: mining for 3 weeks straight, so you can pay to mine for 3 more weeks straight...
There are much better ways to make isk, but this is a good way for you to start getting a wallet up.

If you really enjoy the mining/manufacturing aspect of eve, I suggest you join a corp of like-minded players and see if they can teach you things, get you fleet bonus's, etc.

I could be wrong about the mining numbers per hr. You can easily check that yourself after 1 cycle or 1 hour though.
I am not trying to be negative btw. Just making you aware of the real numbers.
Alerion Madagasgar
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-21 16:54:36 UTC
lol I probably should have been timing myself... gosh. Last run was 45 mins and I got 3.2 mil, there's no way I'm doing that for 100 hours.

Thanks for your suggestions, I'm going to take a break and do some math
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-22 02:52:31 UTC
do yourself a favour and train some gunnery instead.
go run missions, incursions or WHs for isk and find somewhere to PVP when youre ready.

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Hans Momaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-23 18:13:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Momaki
You can make ~20 mil / hour mining veldspar, and an orca hauling the stuff.
Atleast, that's what I got recently with ~5,5 isk per tritt and near perfect skills (perfect hulk, but not so perfect orca)

thats 1 million veldspar. Don't know what you are getting per cycle, but it should be somewhere arround 5k trit per cycle meaning you need 200 cycles for 20 million isk.. I doubt you want to do that.

My advice is: straight hulk training, and start a new account who is going for a hauler, and an orca later. It might cost you ~3 months till you are there, but you can mine pretty safe in High-sec with Hulk + Orca, just gtfo if you see 10 guys popping up on local, and tank your Orca.
Ian Isk
Sounds Legit
#6 - 2012-05-26 18:10:30 UTC
How about joining a 0.0 corp that does mining ops, and get some excitement while you make your isk, and also get a much better isk/h with some new friends?
Jim Sulivan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-26 20:35:27 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
I think...with better skills and the hulk, you might make 4 million an hr mining. (Right now I bet it is much less.)


I harvest about 715k ISK of raw minerals PER CYCLE in my covetor.

What the frak are you trying to convince him about?
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#8 - 2012-05-26 22:30:06 UTC
Jim Sulivan wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
I think...with better skills and the hulk, you might make 4 million an hr mining. (Right now I bet it is much less.)


I harvest about 715k ISK of raw minerals PER CYCLE in my covetor.

What the frak are you trying to convince him about?



I notice you emphasized "PER CYCLE" which is exactly how many ppl fool themselves.
There is more cost/time involved than the cycle time. Hauling, Refineing, Marketing, Monitering your orders, etc, etc.

He was asking how to make 400 million in a week, and he couldn't fly a Hulk YET. He didn't have an Orca or any boost assist. He is jetcan mining from an Osprey.
I wasn't trying to convince him of anything... except the facts that apply to his particular situation.