EVE New Citizens Q&A

You are not late to the party at all. You can start your PvP career by becoming a solid frig pilot. If that is what you want to focus on the high sec corp RvB may be a place to play in for your non station training time.


Drones have their place in PvP, but it is going to take you a while to skill into them to make them truly useful. Plus, without going out and spending time using them, even if they are amazing you won't know how to be effective with their management.

Your path is viable, but there are closer goals (such as becoming a nice frig pilot) that will get you out there having fun and learning the stuff that you want to know with the time you have to learn it.

And don't focus on feeling that you have to have a big ship to be viable. I love flying frigs so far. They are like the hounds on a hunt. Yesterday, my FC sent the frigs into a system to nail the point. We landed and nailed point and did our things while the big guns landed.

It's just to say, it is easy to get swept up in the big ships and big guns and big explosions and big damages. Yet, another one of Eve's true selling features (to me) is that the support ships are just as important to the situation. No one (with sense) goes "Oh, you are in a frig, how pathetic." People are happy about it. Big, badass ships will run away from you because they know that if you get them, they are going down.

You may explode a bit more often. Yet, I can't say that trading a frig for a battleship is anything bad.

You may want to ask a GM for clearance of that ISK unless you can look over the shoulder of you friend to confirm that ISK didn't came from the bad end of the intertubes.

EDIT: Drone boats are very nice to have in some situations. Unless you can force those situations on your enemy your can't rely on that. If you don't know how to play the game well (and you most likely don't) you will have much more fun in other ships.

Fly cheap until you have learned how to lose ships well.

1.) You having that amount of ISK already is only going to spoil you. You will in no way know the value of ISK if you don't know how to earn it yourself. You will soon find out yourself that ISK goes out faster then in usually.

2.) Drone boats for PvP suck as they are indirect DPS (drones take time till they get to the target) and also cause people can kill your drones which leaves you without any offensive measures.

Drones in PvP in general are just an addition to your guns/missiles.

3.) You are not late, still loads to do in EVE, even if you are new.

4.) Yes, you can mix PvP and trade skills, keep in mind it will take longer to master both of them if you train both at the same time.
Also I suggest to go out of station more then just the weekends, unlike other MMO's actual knowledge and skill are far more important then that ingame skillpoints.

5.) The 3 golden rules, and always obey them:

A.) Don't fly what you can't afford to loose (Start small and grow bigger with time, don't run before you can crawl etc.)
B.) Only trust someone you can kick in the balls in real life
C.) If it sounds to good to be true, it is.

Also, no place in EVE space is safe, you can (and likely will) be killed somewhere eventually. High-sec isn't safe, high-sec is safe-ish as CONCORD will punish the offender (but not protect you). So as soon as you undock, you agreed to the risk that comes with it and you agree to loose your ship, if not, then don't undock.

It's certainly a worthy goal, although you definitely have to know when and how to use a droneboat. They're applicable to certain situations, while totally useless in others.

Just going to clarify from my earlier post that I'm not saying you shouldn't accept help from friends. My corpmates refine and haul ore for me because I don't have the skills to fly a very good industrial yet. What I'm saying is that if you have too much ISK at the start of the game, you won't understand that it's generally very difficult for new players to make ISK and that even a few million can be worth a lot.

In the end, though, your EVE experience is what you make it. EVE is a sandbox and you can do whatever you want!

I must say that I like you. You were very quick to come in to post here and ask reasonable questions and seem to have some good sense in you head. Who knows, maybe I'll meet you one day.

Okay so I've been hearing that alot of ships share both drone and electronic warfare. Can electronic warfare be used for frigate and would you guys advise me to go for electronic warfare for now?

Anyone here in a corporation that's willing to take in newbs? Kinda having a hard time by myself.

I am a bit lazy at the moment so I will paste a reply I mailed someone.

Let me start by welcomming you. I can't tell if EVE is the game for you or isn't. There are way too many variables to consider to even come close to having an indication.

I have seen people with less drive stay longer and become more successfull then some of the real passionate ones.
I think the main part some people succeed and some don't is a factor of various things.
Common sense, patience, willingness to learn but also to adapt, stand behind the direction they choose.

Common sense mainly comes into play by accepting that some goals take more time and effort than others.
Of the 350k subscriptions there is a large part who just log in and play without too much thinking.
Do you want to be one of them? I don't think so.
It's actually pretty easy to make cash of the lazy in EVE, you just have to find your recipe in it. You can take advantage of their lazyness or take it even a step further and generate more lazyness or even greed and take advantage of that.
It's one of the many possebilities in EVE.

Patience speaks for itself. There hardly ever is instant gratification. Sometimes you must be committed to put in time and effort to gain gratification. Some things are set up pretty easy and fast to start a simple income generation. Then you have to use your patience to keep that updated and running while working on bigger things.
Always have a goal in sight and a back up plan incase the previous one get's shot down.

Willingness to learn is one of the key basics to EVE. If you aren't willing to learn every day again then best to stop playing.
This is mainly because a large part of EVE is player driven. And those players have the ability to adapt to you and your acions, so learn hw to counter it or learn how to advance their adaptations.
Nothing is holy or set in stone.

Standing behind the direction you choose is a form of dedication which your character will be build on.
EVE has many paths to follow and many skills to learn. Yet there is a focus needed to follow a certain path in order to achieve greatness. A Jack of all Trades can do many things, but never excell in any whereas a specialist is good in his or her corner of the game.
That is how you start. To find a specialisation and work towards it.
Look into yourself and figure out what your very first goal is and set onto it.

EVE is a game where your name can be one that is known by almost all in the game, in every corner of the universe. It can be a name that generates a huge amount of trust like Chribba, a huge amount of hate like The Mittani, an aura of ancient myth like TankCEO, or a name of someone who strikes fear into many people's wallets like Istvaan Shogatsu.

But those names have been earned over a longer period of time. It required the 4 basics I explained.
If you really like long term strategy then EVE is THE game for you. If you want shortterm strategy and instant gratification I suggest a game like RA3 and such.

Now as to my suggestions in regards to learning curves.
I think you should look for information about EVE-Uni and Red vs Blue (a.k.a. RvB)
Those are 2 statingpoints which can help quit a bit in the teaching part of possebilities in this game.
But sticking with them is only an option, not a must. Once again, you choose your career, your path.

If you have more questions don't hesitate to ask them, also I added a little funds to your wallet in order to have the costs of the first steps in regards to skills and ships covered.

Whatever you choose to do, just remember that the dedicated man or woman will rise on top eventually in EVE.

Regards,

Cody

No I didn't. Like I said I was lazy and just did a copy paste from a mail I send someone.

You already made clear you have sufficient funds to start with. I just do random funds increasements to some new players every week.
Those who don't start with an obvious sugarcoated wallet :)

Yes, E-WAR can be used by frigates. In fact, there are certain Frigates that get a bonus to the efficiency of certain E-WAR modules, and E-WAR pilots are always in high demand by all larger PvP Corps, because people rarely (if ever) want to dedicate their time to mastering Electronic Warfare.

As some of the earlier posts said, don't accept hundreds of millions from anyone. You will just end up spending it on something either completely useless or you'll wind up buying a Rifter and fitting it with Faction-Modules and try to PvP in it, only to see the millions of ISK melt before your eyes (both have been seen before).

What you want to do is: Find a good, solid PvP corp, learn what skills you need to become a great frigate-pilot, and assist them in their fights. Even if you only have 200k ISK, you still have enough to fit an Atron, Slasher, Condor or the Amarr counterpart with basic T1-modules and be a valuable asset to any fleet.