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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#1 - 2012-05-20 18:55:42 UTC
Looking at the mineral prices i see that hemo is now above Bist and Crok. Now i know that pre drone poo nerf people were buying minerals in huge chunks, speculation drove the prices up and miners made good isk for a bit. Now they are back down to pre speculation prices, What im wondering is how long do you estimate for the supply to not be able to meet demand, Obviously the current supply hasnt dried up, but with 60% of eves minerals coming from drone poo and 80% of the morphite its going to catch up. Im just wondering when u guys think it will happen.
Steve Ronuken
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#2 - 2012-05-20 19:18:29 UTC
Where are you getting that 60% figure?

Highest I've seen was 40% of the highends.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#3 - 2012-05-20 20:06:34 UTC
Wow, thought you were joshing but yeah, hemo is above BC. Nice since I need all the nocxium I can get :p

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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-20 20:13:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
Just used Eve Markets to grab the prices of minerals and collated through Grismars chart we get today:

Mineral Prices:
Trit 6.88
Pyr 8.03
Iso 99.9
Mex 57.3
Nocx 1049
Zyd 1841
Mega 3400
Morph 13000


Ores:
(ISK/m3)

Hemorphite 345
Crockite 393
Bistot 377

Quite clearly, your OP is in error. Not sure why you post non-facts when they are so easily checkable.

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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#5 - 2012-05-20 20:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Zetaomega333
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Just used Eve Markets to grab the prices of minerals and collated through Grismars chart we get today:

Mineral Prices:
Trit 6.88
Pyr 8.03
Iso 99.9
Mex 57.3
Nocx 1049
Zyd 1841
Mega 3400
Morph 13000


Ores:
(ISK/m3)

Hemorphite 345
Crockite 393
Bistot 377

Quite clearly, your OP is in error. Not sure why you post non-facts when they are so easily checkable.


http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore

Most people do not go off of sell orders, i fail to see why you do.

Reap what you post. And to the other poster im pretty sure ccp said 60% of the minerals came from drone poo.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#6 - 2012-05-20 23:12:07 UTC
Using Jita prices in EVE IPH, I see hemorphite being better than Bistot and Crokite per hour. Regardless of the price type.

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Fabulousli Obvious
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#7 - 2012-05-20 23:32:59 UTC
You buy Ore ?

Wow. Just.....wow.

My figures hold. Didn't realize this was idiot thread. Sorry to intrude. Carry on.

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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#8 - 2012-05-21 03:26:48 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
You buy Ore ?

Wow. Just.....wow.

My figures hold. Didn't realize this was idiot thread. Sorry to intrude. Carry on.


Do you even know what your talking about? My guess is no due to making your self look like an idiot in both posts. That chart is to tell miners what to mine based on the breakdown of minerals in each m3 of ore.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2012-05-21 06:59:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Just used Eve Markets to grab the prices of minerals and collated through Grismars chart we get today:

Beware that Grismar's chart is probably older than I am, and last I heard hadn't been updated with the changes to refining made in Tyrannis.

I recommend you check it.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1325280


EDIT: Yup, Grismar's is still wrong http://eve.grismar.net/ore/
Steve Ronuken
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#10 - 2012-05-21 10:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
If sell prices for the minerals are of interest (only sell. Not touching buy right now)

http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/


Just another site that grabs the 5% of market buy price from eve-marketdata's api.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#11 - 2012-05-21 10:52:00 UTC
To your original point, I'm not sure how long it will take to get rid of stocks. I had 100mil trit from poo and I'm still using it. Not that I haven't really tried though but I haven't had to mine veld in awhile. My nocxium and mexallon were gone quickly. I have loads of zydrine though. I think most of the zydrine came from drones and why that price seemed to go up even more than others since it would be affected more.

For us out in the drone regions though, mexallon is the hardest to come by but it already had been so the price shouldn't do much there, zydrine isn't bad but was super easy to get pre-patch. Trit was easy to get and now we need to mine veldspar or others, which people don't like doing.

All in all, it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm mining a lot more (gun mined before) and not hitting ABC like I used to. I'm mainly mining for what I need, which is probably how it should be but will mix up the market from what we are used to seeing. Hemorphite going above Bistot and Crokite being one of those changes I assume.

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Fabulousli Obvious
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#12 - 2012-05-21 14:31:49 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Just used Eve Markets to grab the prices of minerals and collated through Grismars chart we get today:

Beware that Grismar's chart is probably older than I am, and last I heard hadn't been updated with the changes to refining made in Tyrannis.

I recommend you check it.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1325280


EDIT: Yup, Grismar's is still wrong http://eve.grismar.net/ore/



IDIOTS ALL.

You plug in your new numbers into that chart. Jesus H Christ IQ's have absolutely plummeted. What's a girl to do.............

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Haulie Berry
#13 - 2012-05-21 14:40:25 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Just used Eve Markets to grab the prices of minerals and collated through Grismars chart we get today:

Beware that Grismar's chart is probably older than I am, and last I heard hadn't been updated with the changes to refining made in Tyrannis.

I recommend you check it.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1325280


EDIT: Yup, Grismar's is still wrong http://eve.grismar.net/ore/



IDIOTS ALL.

You plug in your new numbers into that chart. Jesus H Christ IQ's have absolutely plummeted. What's a girl to do.............


Are you this stupid in real life, or is it something you save for these special moments on the S&I forum?

First of all, the prices you used were... absurdly out of bounds. Megacyte hasn't seen 3400 in almost a month.

Secondly, the resulting refine values of the Grismar page are wrong. Not the prices. The amount of minerals produced.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#14 - 2012-05-21 17:22:19 UTC
http://www.evemarketeer.com/item/group_summary/18

There's also some good sized swings across the 4 major market regions.

Trit is 6.23 in the Forge, but 5.92-6.01 elsewhere
Pye is 7.96 in Jita, but only 7.00-7.50 elsewhere
Mex is 50-52, except in Jita where it's closer to 55
Isogen - 90 in Jita, 82-85 elsewhere
Nocx - 814 in Jita, 750-793 elsewhere
Zyd - 1185 in Jita, still 1350-1400 in the outer hubs
Mega - 2590 in Jita, 2700-2850 elsewhere
Morphite - 7225 in Jita, 7400-8100 elsewhere

The ABCs are being pounded right now as the market shakes itself out as Zyd/Mega/Nocx plummets in value from its speculative high points and the market waits to see what it will settle out at.

Will null-sec / w-space miners be willing to mine the ABCs if they're only 40M/hr (even with Orca/Rorqual boosts?). Or will those miners not bother until ore values go back up to 50-60M/hr?

(Hulk can mine about 95k m3/hr solo, a T2 orca adds 65% to that number and the Rorqual is a bit higher boost.)
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-21 18:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Droxlyn
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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#16 - 2012-05-21 19:08:34 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
http://www.evemarketeer.com/item/group_summary/18

There's also some good sized swings across the 4 major market regions.

Trit is 6.23 in the Forge, but 5.92-6.01 elsewhere
Pye is 7.96 in Jita, but only 7.00-7.50 elsewhere
Mex is 50-52, except in Jita where it's closer to 55
Isogen - 90 in Jita, 82-85 elsewhere
Nocx - 814 in Jita, 750-793 elsewhere
Zyd - 1185 in Jita, still 1350-1400 in the outer hubs
Mega - 2590 in Jita, 2700-2850 elsewhere
Morphite - 7225 in Jita, 7400-8100 elsewhere

The ABCs are being pounded right now as the market shakes itself out as Zyd/Mega/Nocx plummets in value from its speculative high points and the market waits to see what it will settle out at.

Will null-sec / w-space miners be willing to mine the ABCs if they're only 40M/hr (even with Orca/Rorqual boosts?). Or will those miners not bother until ore values go back up to 50-60M/hr?

(Hulk can mine about 95k m3/hr solo, a T2 orca adds 65% to that number and the Rorqual is a bit higher boost.)




The Hemo and hedb goes fast so the abc's will always get eaten, unless you live in a F Class region where there are huge ark roids in class 4 and up systems bc will always get eaten.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-22 12:51:25 UTC
If you mine hidden gravimetric sites like most of the serious mining corps, you still need to mine high ends, cus there is not enough hed and hemo in the hidden sites.

Also Jaspet is almost at the same price as bistot, so .... yea, funny times :D
Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#18 - 2012-05-22 16:16:50 UTC
P3po wrote:
If you mine hidden gravimetric sites like most of the serious mining corps, you still need to mine high ends, cus there is not enough hed and hemo in the hidden sites.

Also Jaspet is almost at the same price as bistot, so .... yea, funny times :D


Im not going to lie, im a major fan of the local belts while mining, bigger selection and better quality than the grav sites most of the time.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#19 - 2012-05-22 22:58:58 UTC
Zetaomega333 wrote:

Im not going to lie, im a major fan of the local belts while mining, bigger selection and better quality than the grav sites most of the time.


That's a long standing complaint that I have with grav sites, they don't have enough m3 of ore in them.