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Vargur VS Kronos (lvl 4 missions)

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WolfMarrell
DreamScar Industries
#1 - 2012-05-20 18:48:47 UTC
Hey, i'm about to buy one of these two. My goal is for straight isk/hr efficiency. I'd like to know which one you guys think is best for L4's. I plan on solo salvaging everything so i'm not interested in Machs (unless theyre overwhelmingly better)

Which one would you choose, and why?

Last note: I'd rather not drop more then 2b for the overall ship+fit, but if its worth while i will. I do plan to MAKE money, so i'd rather not spend more then i'll ever see in return, so no 50b isk officer fits lol.

Thanks for the help!
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-20 18:56:33 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
The former is the best marauder, the later the worst. Winmatard = Win. Gaylante = Fail.

On another note, since you have both racial BS skills, get a Mach.Big smile

Fitting shouldn't be a problem. The only things really needed is 4x faction dmg mod, everything else is optional.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#3 - 2012-05-20 20:03:03 UTC
I have both. I actually really like the Kronos. The Vargur is a great ship too, but your actual DPS is not as high as your paper DPS due to fighting in fall off.

Before I moved to 0.0, I routinely used the Paladin, Vargur, and Kronos for missions. I have also used the Golem, but lately I have focused on gun boats.

The Paladin is king of the missions against Amarr, Sanshas, Bloods, and Rogue Drones.

The Kronos is superb against Caldari and Serpentis (I don't get Guristas missions in my space). It has a great combination of range + DPS that works very well for missions. I carry faction Antimatter and faction Thorium - those are the only two ammo types you need.

I use a Vargur or a Machariel against Angels, Mercenaries, EoM, and any other miscellaneous enemy. The advantage of the Vargur over the Machariel is the ability to use faction ammo at half the price. The Machariel burns through ammo ridiculously fast. I usually use regular T1 ammo with it for that reason. With the Vargur, I almost always use faction ammo.

I don't find myself using the tractor beam + salvager that often. Pretty much the only missions I routinely salvage are against the Amarr or Caldari. For those, I use a Noctis, because it is so much faster than using the Marauder. Pretty much the only time I use the tractor + salvager on my marauder is when there are only a couple of wrecks in a room. For the rest, I bookmark each room and come back once I have several missions worth of wrecks saved up.

I like to use the optimal tool for the job, that's why I have several different Marauders. I also have two Machariels - and that is my default ship for most missions in Minmatar/Thukker space. In my mind, the Machariel is currently the best all around PvE ship in the game. If you only want one ship, go for the Machariel. Otherwise, if you work in Minmatar/Gallente space, flip a coin between the other two.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Temuken Radzu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-20 20:19:28 UTC
I too like the Kronos. Against angels, a blaster fit kronos melts them in a flash.
WolfMarrell
DreamScar Industries
#5 - 2012-05-21 01:49:35 UTC
Thanks for the replies.

I think the space i'll be operating out of is either Caldari or Gallente. From what i've read thus far, (racial bias aside) is that it really depends on who your up against. With the above info, what would be further recommended? I'm leaning towords kronos, since i know ive seen alot of guristas and serpentis around, but its been awhile. I just need to grind some isk for the next extended period of time.

Also, how MUCH less efficient is the kronos against other non ideal races (like mordu or mercs/drones)? is it crippling enough to opt for a straight up different ship? or is it just a slight isk/hr hit?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2012-05-21 04:59:54 UTC
Kronos is great against Mordus, EoM, and Mercenaries.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2012-05-21 06:22:08 UTC
Mach/Varg for partial damage selection, it matters a whole lot, which is why despite instant damage and more dps, the CNR will still trump many gunboats due to 100% damage selection.