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Best ship for killing Gurristas...
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Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-20 02:20:32 UTC
Hey all,

I am in need of a ship that can easily dispatch Gurrista ships from afar. I can use all BSs except the Kronos, and i don't have T2 blasters yet.

I thought about: Mael - long or short range, not too fast
Tempest - Quicker, can be a lot of fun, not as tanky
Typhoon Fleet - fast, craptonne of DPS, not much tank at all
Golem/Vargur - very tanky, can 'love' them from afar but weak sig strength
Mach - very fast, awesome, 7 guns and long range means it can 'love' many ships from afar
Tengu - **** boring, awesome tank, average DPS, boring
Loki - Fast and fun, good DPS, decent tank
Proteus - awesome DPS, fast and fun

Other options are a CNR, Rattlesnake, SNI... anyone have a ship that works for them?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-20 02:31:03 UTC
Mach. period.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#3 - 2012-05-20 07:03:48 UTC
Yeah Mach, you can use utility lows for ECCM instead of mids so it'll still do very well against Guristas, you can close up on the jammers and obliterate them with 1kdps.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2012-05-20 09:49:14 UTC
The Ishtar is far and away the best choice. Everything else will end up losing DPS to jams.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-20 09:50:43 UTC
^^ yeah thats a good point... shield or armour, cheap and suited. Thanks :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-05-20 10:06:19 UTC
Pretty much anything not Amarr will do.

Guristas are easy to tank due to their damage profile and how pretty much everything (except Amarr) have good or decent Kn/Th resist profiles inherently. They are also very vulnerable to sig/speed tanking.

They are also very easy to damage (except for by the Amarr) since Kn/Th-based weapons are so commonplace and occasionally even come with specific damage type bonuses, depending on the ship. Incidentally, you generally want to use the Caldari drones rather than the Gallente ones, except in the case of sentries.

Their jamming is the only thing you really need to adjust for, and even then, it's fairly easy to avoid (or even ignore).
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#7 - 2012-05-20 12:05:01 UTC
blaster talos for belt ratting

than + rail talos for anoms
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#8 - 2012-05-20 12:23:09 UTC
A sentry carrier or an erebus.

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nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#9 - 2012-05-20 13:04:08 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
A sentry carrier or an erebus.


carrier with 15 drones has dps of 2 dominixes (without guns) - i wouldn't call that high dps.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2012-05-20 13:04:22 UTC
nahjustwarpin wrote:
blaster talos for belt ratting

than + rail talos for anoms


Interesting... Are you shield tanking that? Can I see your fit?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#11 - 2012-05-20 15:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: nahjustwarpin
Malcanis wrote:
nahjustwarpin wrote:
blaster talos for belt ratting

than + rail talos for anoms


Interesting... Are you shield tanking that? Can I see your fit?


i have 2 fits, 1 for belts:

+high
8 neutrons II
+mid
LSE II
experiental 10 mwd
2x kinetic hardeners II
+low
2 magstab
2 TE
nanofiber
+rigs
3x shield purgers

second for anoms - this changed a bit, but it was something like:

+high
8 425 rails II
+med
2 TP
2 tracking computers
+low
3x magstab
1x nano
1x TE

paper thin tank, but carrier takes aggro and you leave a can 300 off anom and align all the time. kills frigs first because it takes too long with fighters.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2012-05-20 18:59:12 UTC
I'd be tempted to go Invuln + Kin for the belt ratting fit - Guristas do a far whack of thermal. Have you tried that?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#13 - 2012-05-20 19:19:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I'd be tempted to go Invuln + Kin for the belt ratting fit - Guristas do a far whack of thermal. Have you tried that?


thermal is only 20% of their damage, while kinetic is 80%.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#14 - 2012-05-21 01:53:20 UTC
I'm a fan of the Vindicator. I'm getting 1000DPS out of a rail-fit one with antimatter ammo, and just enough range to be able to kill them with ease.
I'm amazed nobody else has even considered this ship...

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Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-05-21 03:51:13 UTC
Versuvius Marii wrote:
I'm a fan of the Vindicator. I'm getting 1000DPS out of a rail-fit one with antimatter ammo, and just enough range to be able to kill them with ease.
I'm amazed nobody else has even considered this ship...


I seriously considered this but i didn't want it for one reason: a PVE Vindi is the personification of "OMGWTFOHNO!"

But yeah... it's DPS, webbing bonus and resists profile would be ideal Smile
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-21 04:30:22 UTC
Sup B1tches wrote:
Hey all,

I am in need of a ship that can easily dispatch Gurrista ships from afar. I can use all BSs except the Kronos, and i don't have T2 blasters yet.

I thought about: Mael - long or short range, not too fast
Tempest - Quicker, can be a lot of fun, not as tanky
Typhoon Fleet - fast, craptonne of DPS, not much tank at all
Golem/Vargur - very tanky, can 'love' them from afar but weak sig strength
Mach - very fast, awesome, 7 guns and long range means it can 'love' many ships from afar
Tengu - **** boring, awesome tank, average DPS, boring
Loki - Fast and fun, good DPS, decent tank
Proteus - awesome DPS, fast and fun

Other options are a CNR, Rattlesnake, SNI... anyone have a ship that works for them?


Raven Navy Issue with Sensor booster and Signal Amplifier: Lock and kill everything from >100km, high natural sensor strength so you're jam resistant without whacking an ECCM (wasting a precious midslot) on there, Sebo and Signal Amp so you can relock things quickly after (if) you get jammed anyway. chuck some Garde II's out (Wardens if it's a really long range mission) and insta- pop incoming frigs.

stay away from ze marauders, they'll be jammed to hell and back
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-21 04:31:51 UTC
nahjustwarpin wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I'd be tempted to go Invuln + Kin for the belt ratting fit - Guristas do a far whack of thermal. Have you tried that?


thermal is only 20% of their damage, while kinetic is 80%.


I wouldn't mission in anything worth > 1billion without some sort of omnitank.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-21 08:46:39 UTC
Tengu. Period.

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Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#19 - 2012-05-21 09:13:30 UTC
Masamune Dekoro wrote:


Raven Navy Issue with Sensor booster and Signal Amplifier: Lock and kill everything from >100km, high natural sensor strength so you're jam resistant without whacking an ECCM (wasting a precious midslot) on there, Sebo and Signal Amp so you can relock things quickly after (if) you get jammed anyway. chuck some Garde II's out (Wardens if it's a really long range mission) and insta- pop incoming frigs.

stay away from ze marauders, they'll be jammed to hell and back


Same with the SNI and half the cost.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-05-21 10:51:32 UTC
Manticore ;D

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