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Trading Investments Wanted

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Dr Starkey
Lazy Blokes
#1 - 2012-05-20 14:35:40 UTC
About Me
I'm an experienced trader who has recently made the step from hauler to freighter pilot. I have been trading for a number of weeks now and have made steady profits by using a single trade rout from station A to station B.

Why I would like to be invested in

My method of trading is a simple and effective one. I supply mission hubs with the items that are in high demand for that particular faction's hub. Such a method means that while profit margins may be slightly lower, product turnover is increased and i am able to move more items, faster. This translates to a quick return on investment.

Why I need more isk
Naturally, the more isk i have, the more money i can make with it. I have found that the profit margins are greater when trading with certain types of ship, rather than modules or ammunition etc. Sell orders are also filled much faster, meaning money tied up in assets is reduced. For this reason, the cargo i transport is generally more expensive. Currently i am able to fill 1/5th of my cargo with ships, each making anywhere from 5 to 15 million isk profit. As an investor, you will allow me to increase the ammount of ships i am able to buy and sell.

What will you get in return?
After every trade run i make, i will split the profit 50-50. Half will go back in to the trade pot, the other 50 will be distributed among those that invest in my venture equally reflecting the percentage contributed. This will be maintained until a 35% profit has been made for the investor. This method ensures that investors sustain a cash flow throughout my project.

Risk
This is eve, and as we all know, scamming is an unavoidable part of the game. As a player, it is up to your best judgement to deem this investment worth while or not.

Any investment will be gladly appreciated, though I currently deal in battlecruiser and battleship class vessels, so investments that reflect this would provide you with the best ballance between risk and reward.
Johnny Frecko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-20 14:48:33 UTC
I'll iterate.
While a scam is a risk, Your predicted trade route that's easily followed means higher chance of ganks.
If you would lose the money you were given, How do you plan to pay it back?

To be more specific.

1)What's your current worth - estimated, including all things you're willing to liquidate.
2)What's your absolute trading profit daily
3)How much do you want invested,
4)For how long do you want that isk?
5)what are the rates you offer (35% monthly for example, is unlikely to get you any investors).

That's off the top of my head. Just trying to help you out being more specific in getting your isk>

Oh one last question - What you can provide, if anything, as collateral?
Dr Starkey
Lazy Blokes
#3 - 2012-05-20 15:04:54 UTC
I thank you for your constructive reply, this has been my first request for investment, and as such is a learning experience for me.

1) Currently i have around 3 billion in assets that i would be willing to liquidate. I have been playing this game since 2005 and have accumulated quite a few expensive ships that i use only on occasion. While still important to my eve experience, they would be the first to go in the event that i had to cover any losses incurred.

2) Currently I make around 30million isk per trip, and can make 3 to 4 trips per day. However this is by no means my optimal capacity, as stated i am limited by isk.

3) I am looking for a total investment of 2 billion isk, which will allow me to not only fill my cargo with ships, but also enable me to react to regular buy orders that are placed for faction ships. These provide the highest profit (sometimes 30 to 40m per ship).

4)/5) I aim to pay back investors within a week, two at the latest. Instead of paying investors in a lump sum, i want to pay them after each trip, or possibly after each day of trading. This way, investors will be reassured that I am infact utilizing the isk to the best of my abilities.

In regards to collateral, if i had anything i could give to secure an investment, i would have already sold it for isk to use in trade, preventing the need for this post.

I hope this helps, apologies for anything I have missed out
Olivia Silver
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-20 15:09:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Olivia Silver
Dr Starkey wrote:
I thank you for your constructive reply, this has been my first request for investment, and as such is a learning experience for me.

1) Currently i have around 3 billion in assets that i would be willing to liquidate. I have been playing this game since 2005 and have accumulated quite a few expensive ships that i use only on occasion. While still important to my eve experience, they would be the first to go in the event that i had to cover any losses incurred.



You wouldn't use this as collateral? And do you plan to have an audit done by VV?

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Siestre Vitale
Vita Post Mortem
#5 - 2012-05-20 15:12:58 UTC
if your willing to be audited then im sure we can come to some arrangment

"Chance favours the prepared mind"

Dr Starkey
Lazy Blokes
#6 - 2012-05-20 15:19:53 UTC
I shall look into getting ordited, though as my RL schedule permits i wont be able to do this until next weekend.

I am able to trade throughout the working week as it is a fairly passive activity, if anyone would like to make a small investment for this weeks trading then i'd appreciate it, if not hold tight and i'll get myself audited as soon as practically possible.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#7 - 2012-05-20 15:52:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lauren Hellfury
Come up with 2.2B in collateral in the form of those "accumulated [...] expensive ships that [you] use only on occasion" and I'll cover the full 2B at 5% per week for a maximum of 2 weeks.

ie. You send me a list of stuff that you think comes out to 2.2B at a fair market price (ship rigs don't count unless it's something special). When we agree on a list you contract that stuff to me from a station that is accessable via contiguous high-sec systems from Jita (don't go trying to contract me **** in low/null or highsec islands) for 2B.

If at the end of the first week you wish to terminate the loan you mail me 1 day in advance and I contract it all back for 2.1B If you want to continue for another week then you deposit 100M in my wallet and I set the contract up at the end of the second week for 2.1B

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P.S. We do it like this and I couldn't give a crap about an audit.

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Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-20 16:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Liberty Eternal
Edit: Found the answer to my question. [2 bil for 2 weeks]