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CSM 7 Sugestion De-Cloaking
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Codie Black
Tax Evasion Ltd. Co. Inc.
#1 - 2012-05-19 20:03:59 UTC
If there is a fail % on cloaking device some thing like 0,05%
and the afk cloaking problem solve

pos EMP burst decloking device with a time takes time to do and i am not a fan of that.

and the cap low and decloke all ships can be fittet to be stable, to complicated
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2012-05-20 01:28:22 UTC
Why?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#3 - 2012-05-20 01:42:20 UTC
Cloaking is working as intended.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Loius Woo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-05-20 02:08:31 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Cloaking is working as intended.


Agreed, working as It should.
Codie Black
Tax Evasion Ltd. Co. Inc.
#5 - 2012-05-20 04:05:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Codie Black
turn on eve and hide behind a cloak all day, when you not there.
think that error % is a good way to keep the players active.
if it might fail after 1min or 24hour that so the player have to go check once and awhile,

think that total afk cloaking is lame, i know it's a strategy for make alliances make less isk.
but think it's to easy just to turn you pc on and go on holiday.

A fail error random timer will be a good solution for make sure the is a player behind the screen.

Example we are 50 ppl or just 1 in a alliance agree to open a trail account and invite "body programm" = 2 month game play
you will need 50 emails 50 body invite 50 plex "you get it back when trail inject it"
Train 50 cloking toons and place all in every sys in a alliace.
Make a small macro for login and press cloak (takes like 2-8min to make that with a 10year old brain) and add it to a timer after DT

You now have the recipe for a alliance killer.

All can do that, and it free.

That's just lame.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#6 - 2012-05-20 05:02:19 UTC
So not only are you suggesting something to break a mechanic that works fine as is, you are suggesting people use macros with timers, which if memory serves, are in violation of the EULA.

This needs to be closed.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Codie Black
Tax Evasion Ltd. Co. Inc.
#7 - 2012-05-20 05:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Codie Black
Jack Carrigan wrote:
So not only are you suggesting something to break a mechanic that works fine as is, you are suggesting people use macros with timers, which if memory serves, are in violation of the EULA.

This needs to be closed.


go and tell about the EULA in jita, 60-90%+ in trail account running scam macros,
be curse the is no game mechanic to stop them.
and what are you going to do about it, nothing and if you do some thing about it and report it.
1-2min after a new macro is running agen.

well forget about the macro, and lets focus on the decloaking first

can some tell me why it must be like it is to day and give me a good reason not to change it.

i see no good reason on you comments not to change it so fare.
and yes it's a low sec / zero sec problem to day.
Beledia Ilphukiir
Proffessional Experts Group
#8 - 2012-05-20 05:43:00 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Cloaking is working as intended.

Codie Black
Tax Evasion Ltd. Co. Inc.
#9 - 2012-05-20 05:58:57 UTC
just been runnign a background check on you all, all of you stay in highsec.
and dont have that problem, so that's easy to say, there is no problem,
come to 0,0 that's where the problem is, not in highsec.
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-20 11:23:18 UTC
Codie Black wrote:
just been runnign a background check on you all, all of you stay in highsec.
and dont have that problem, so that's easy to say, there is no problem,
come to 0,0 that's where the problem is, not in highsec.


Stop trying to PVE in other people's systems. Claim your own space.
Stralow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-20 11:44:22 UTC
As a WH resident i'd say no

These kind of cloaking threads are all kind of awful... everytime... there is nothing broken.

i say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#12 - 2012-05-20 13:34:13 UTC
I think you no English good.

Please, learn English or use a translator to read through the hundreds of other far better articulated threads on this subject. Then, if you come up with anything genuinely new, post it and have a friend translate/modify your message for you.

This will save us all a lot of time explaining basic concepts to you, and a well written post that has been translated by a fluent English speaker will be much better received.

In the meantime, GTFO and HTFU.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#13 - 2012-05-20 13:36:38 UTC
Stralow wrote:
As a WH resident i'd say no

These kind of cloaking threads are all kind of awful... everytime... there is nothing broken.

This is off topic, but seeing as this topic isn't going anywhere im going to post anyway, do you know what I found out the other day?

Bots can see local in wormholes. Apparently local isn't really "removed" in wormholes, the local list is still sent to the client its just hidden in the GUI. Now THAT is something that needs fixing.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Stralow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-20 13:51:33 UTC
So every time other people here write something you don't like, you start flaming them for there lack explain themselves in english in an game played by people around the world? Thats cool. The moment you join the german eve forum and write perfect german, i will take some advanced english classes. Until then all above from you is just blablabla in no way related to the topic.

I don't need a lecture in basic game mechanics, living in WH space for about some time now and i do well there.
Nothing changes the fact that there is nothing broken with the cloaking mechanic, so why is this topic coming up 4 times a day?

i say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#15 - 2012-05-20 13:59:04 UTC
Stralow wrote:
So every time other people here write something you don't like, you start flaming them for there lack explain themselves in english in an game played by people around the world? Thats cool. The moment you join the german eve forum and write perfect german, i will take some advanced english classes. Until then all above from you is just blablabla in no way related to the topic.

I don't need a lecture in basic game mechanics, living in WH space for about some time now and i do well there.
Nothing changes the fact that there is nothing broken with the cloaking mechanic, so why is this topic coming up 4 times a day?

This is an English forum, posts should be in coherent English.

And yes, when I see a badly written post on a topic that comes up four times a day, by an OP that clearly hasn't bothered to read any of the other threads, I begin flaming. The thread is redundant, not particularly useful and it serves only to push other, more interesting topics down the list.

And btw, my first post was not directed at you, it was directed at the OP. Just in case you misunderstood, your English is perfectly legible.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
barkaway
AC Straffespark
#16 - 2012-05-20 16:55:34 UTC  |  Edited by: barkaway
Quote:
This is an English forum, posts should be in coherent English.

And yes, when I see a badly written post on a topic that comes up four times a day, by an OP that clearly hasn't bothered to read any of the other threads, I begin flaming. The thread is redundant, not particularly useful and it serves only to push other, more interesting topics down the list.

And btw, my first post was not directed at you, it was directed at the OP. Just in case you misunderstood, your English is perfectly legible

So what your saying is that if ppl cant write in perfect english then they should GTFO?
Wow thats really grown up, yes its an english forum but there are still gonna be ppl who uses it even if they arent english..
And as for the topic of this thread, well i agree with it.
We have had cloaky campers in some of the systems we live in for 14 days and almost 24 hours a day and tbh its annoying..
Yeah i know camping is part of the game but if you want to do it then tbh you shouldnt have the option of leaving your pc for a longer period of time..
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-20 17:36:58 UTC
Quick recap on how to beat AFK Cloaking in 0.0; because lets face it, people in lowsec don't care.

-Rat with buddies, varying ship types; believe it or not most afk cloakers do not have a fleet ready to bridge in on them 23.5/7
-Move to another system to rat in, this will really let you know if they are AFK.
-Set up bait traps
-Many many more very good ideas that are out there that I use all the time to kill afk cloakers, but I don't want to give away my secrets.

Stop being scared of someone who may or may not be there, plan for an attack and set up your reactions accordingly. That is the nature of the sandbox, adapt or die.

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#18 - 2012-05-20 19:15:10 UTC
barkaway wrote:
So what your saying is that if ppl cant write in perfect english then they should GTFO?
Wow thats really grown up, yes its an english forum but there are still gonna be ppl who uses it even if they arent english..
And as for the topic of this thread, well i agree with it.
We have had cloaky campers in some of the systems we live in for 14 days and almost 24 hours a day and tbh its annoying..
Yeah i know camping is part of the game but if you want to do it then tbh you shouldnt have the option of leaving your pc for a longer period of time..

Your English is not perfect English, but it is acceptable and quite good for someone who (presumably) does not speak English as their first language.

This, however is not even moderately acceptable English:

Codie Black wrote:
If there is a fail % on cloaking device some thing like 0,05%
and the afk cloaking problem solve

pos EMP burst decloking device with a time takes time to do and i am not a fan of that.

and the cap low and decloke all ships can be fittet to be stable, to complicated

Maybe this level of literacy would be acceptable in a comment, but if you are starting a thread on a well discussed topic and wish for a pleasant reception then you should try to write in as close to fluent English as possible.

In the case of the OP that clearly isn't possible, so he should have written it in his native tongue and had a friend (either online or offline) translate it for him. This may have allowed him to actually articulate any points he was trying to make, and maybe even attempt to expand on the issue.

Instead all we have is something barely legible about his dislike for EMP burst decloaking, cloak capacitor consumption and RNG cloak failure. There is no reasoning, no new ideas and even the points he made are barely legible.

Essentially, this is a terrible thread. That is all there is to it.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-05-21 02:27:23 UTC
Codie Black wrote:
If there is a fail % on cloaking device some thing like 0,05%
and the afk cloaking problem solve

pos EMP burst decloking device with a time takes time to do and i am not a fan of that.

and the cap low and decloke all ships can be fittet to be stable, to complicated





no. AFK cloaking is not an issue. I could make the same arguement about afk wardeccing which most people think is fine... AFKers are no threat.. remove cloakers from local. that's the only solution as it removes the truly afk from the arguement.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-05-21 02:35:46 UTC
I suggest we stop suggesting decloaking mechanisms.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
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