Assembly Hall

Ok, here's an option to protect the new players:

Supershield v1
Expands defenses of trial qualified ships to be more in line with the defenses enjoyed by capitals.
Very short term use, only available to accounts under 2 weeks in age.
Can't be traded, nor can it be used on another account. In other words, it's a complete account lock.
It would work down to 0.4 sec status, but doesn't work any deeper then that. This would give the new pilot a chance to get back to 0.5+ space without the sudden and violent end of their ship due to a very simple to make mistake. Do feel free to shoot, they will take damage. Just don't expect to kill it.

This shield would burn out by the end of a normal trial period and would start warning the pilot that it's about to expire and that they will become vulnerable to normal attack mechanics within 72 hours.

This would protect the new players looking to get a taste of what Eve is about, but would also leave them vulnerable to a well executed trap to catch them.

This would effectively end the grief aimed towards the new players, while letting them get used to how the actual mechanics work.


Call it the New Player Protection Act.

-suicide ganking is part of the game except when it become harrasment.
-new players get to learn from these Experiances at an early stage is very much a good and for them probly a bad thing
-people that take Serious Spaceship Bizniz to a new low should be shot by Concord asap
-and Im in agreement for Insurance changes see another post topic in Assembly hall, As Its officially not to of any one use.

Suicide Ganking is a legiitmate form of playing....its only harassment if it is something done without purpose or motivation. In this case its to get a kill. Prue and Simple.

Don't like it...then walk away.


People that take serious "spaceship bizniz" to a new low are no different than you "raping" an entire asteroid field in a PVP'ers eyes or overcharning for equipment in the name of profit. Beuaty is in the eye of the beholder. In other words...get over yourself.

Insurance has already been changed and no longer given CONCORD'd.

Not that it did a damn thing..used to be in that camp myself...but then I realized PVP'ers don't care about ISK.


Truth be told...I'm sorry....and while I don't like ganking..I have yet to be a victim of such a thing...I've witntessed it..come close...and truth be told...you have to be pretty damn stupid to get suicide ganked unless your just a "random" target in Jita...but those are the "tards" flying shuttles.


The solution to your problem.


Common Sense.

Aren't you referring to the guy who lost his shuttle full of plexs?

Rather than enabling solo play, how about we did something about hi-sec ganking that encourages cooperation (multiplayer) like, say, Aegis destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610

I also agree with T2 insurance, but only to a degree.

The rest of the OP really does seem to lean towards wanting the game to be more of a Terraria, where you can't be killed unless PvP is switched on.

You're completely correct on this, however let's at least give them the chance to make a full decision on their own. Not force the decision on them by letting them get killed all the time. A ragequit seems to be the ultimate goal of most high-end players. Go ahead, try to get someone to do so. Just don't do to the people who are still just learning the dynamics of this game.

People are taking this game *WAY* too seriously, that they're becoming short-sighted to the ultimate goal of keeping new blood in this game. Without the new players that some people take great pleasure in killing on sight, this game will die.

If you don't like the idea as I've laid it out, please feel free to make suggestions to modifying it to bring it in line with the rest of the game without completely gutting it.

Wow, a troll, how cute.

Where exactly did I state that it couldn't be modified?

At best, all you'd do is postpone the shock of losing a ship by a few weeks. It's a non-solution, in fact it's an anti-solution because it'll give newbies the sense that they are, indeed, invincible in hisec, which'll make the shock of getting ganked even worse..

So tell me oh brilliant EVElopediapoddie psychophant the answer to this:

1. EVE used to be one world with no differential in what you could do, where.
2. A selection of actions that are fine in most of EVE are now bannable under the EULA if done in new player starting systems.

Guess what, since I last played, and now, CCP has introduced safe zones into EVE. I didn't, they did. Logically the next thing is for those to get bigger, if the subscriptions targets are not met.

To those who attack the poster not the ideas: you pitiful creatures. Use your brain, God did give you one too. I don't know you, you don't know me, you can't possibly know how much I know about this game, this industry, or simple business reality from the age of the toon.

Oh and to the nice poster who said PLEX is money in the bank. No, it's money that was in the bank. CCP had to let some people go last year due to the financial downturn, you can infer they have no huge pile of cash from past PLEX sitting about. What they have is a debt to players on thier financials. Times have been hard, they need new players to join, pay, and stay, paying with real money. CCP have already "carebeared it up" in various areas of the game over the past few years. Guess what the cold, hard business reality is likely to push them to do next. So give CCP better ideas to achieve the goal of increasing new player retention past the 3 month point, or bite your fingers rather than type.

For my part: Add Highsec ganker 24 hour cooldown flag, which makes them attackable by anyone, and poddable by anyone, and which pays bounties on them 50% to someone who kills thier ship (where the ship must be value >20% of the bountry to be a qualifying kill), and 50% to whoever kills thier pod. Ganking should also have higher security and NPC faction hits.

As drawn out by the discussion above, the real issue is not that hulks are unsafe, but that the Concord mechanics mean that people with bounties on them ARE safe. Spaceship Barbie with her huge bounty, horrible security status, can and does undock in her Navy Megathron, complete with superb tank. And CONCORD protect her from all random attacks, in a 1.0 system, even though she is one of the highest bounty players most players will ever actually see in the same system. Gankers should not be safer than miners in Highsec: that is simply broken.