EVE General Discussion

Came looking for easy lesson, left with ironic sig.

Nope exactly the same worm hole because I did bookmark that one on the hisec side.

I think the half bottle of Bells might explain the lack of spare probes

Probably not... remember your alt scanned down the hole again to go through, so there's no guarantee it's the same hole. It probably was the same hole type, like an R943 (I think it is...) for example. You can have multiple of the same types but they'll lead to different systems.

Even if this isn't the case, I have seen holes pop and brand new holes spawn on the exact same spot. Happens in our C2, for example... I have had D382s spawn on the same exact location for as many as three days in a row, each leading to a different C2. So it's possible that the hole popped after you were lost and a new one spawned on the same place, but unless that high system has a static whatever (pretty sure they don't) it's incredibly unlikely. So yeah, I'd lean towards you finding the same type of yet different hole.

No it was the signature on the hisec side that was the same. Something like R509. I know the K162 are all exit holes.

Ingvar Angst might be right. Same hisec hole might lead to different WH systems for different pilots at different times.

You've got half the answer already, but what you're thinking here is not quite true.

Okay, so from what I understood here, your alt scanned down a wormhole with the same name (read: name is not the same as signature, there is a slight difference). However, he ended up in a different wormhole system.

Before I go on here, let me define what I mean by name and signature:
- Name is the code associated with a wormhole, it can be looked up in the Wormhole Thingy 3rd party app.
- Signature is a dynamic code that is given to ALL anomalies and sites that can be scanned; this code is changed uppon downtime.

In wormhole space, we often end up with grav sites and the like that we have scanned down but not visited (because warping to them causes them to spawn, and once you leave a spawned site, it despawns after a while; thus not visiting it will mean you can keep the site in your hole indefinately). These sites always have the same position, but their signature changes after each downtime, so we need to scan them down again. We use another 3rd party ingame browser app to keep track of these changes in signature (so we know what site is which signature from the previous day).

Next:
The name of a wormhole/site is a static atribute. While there are no wormholes by the name R509, so let's use an R943 as an example:
ALL wormholes by the name R943 lead to class 2 wormhole space.
Effectively, this means that you could have two R943 within the same hisec system, with different signatures, but the same name.

So your mistake here was to look for wormholes with the same name, not wormholes with the same signature; and if you waited until after downtime, then well... there is little you could have done as the wormhole would have lost it's signature name, as well as colapsed (wormholes that last > 24 hrs are rare in hisec, a lot only last 12).

I'll also add that half a bottle of fine scotch whisky is bad for your sense of perspective and judgement

EDIT: Personally, I prefer Rum

What has the HS WH exit broughts us precious? Is it fresh fishes for us to feed on?