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CCP: Let me be a bit more clear.


If you release the inventory system the way it is right now, people will be IRATE.

Please, at least let us know that you're not just pulling a stunt like last year with the NEX store!?

This is literally up the same alley.

They changed the back end inventory system so there is no way to go back.

The fixes are not that hard. Should be workable in a week or so. UI guys were to focuses on the back end optimizations and not player utility. Windows just need to remember where they where. Link them to ship or something. Jumping is fixed now they just need to fix remember over docking and undocking and the Pos hanger issues.

ccp think that this new thing is awesom. they dont play eve and clearly have there heads fitted up there arse.

come tuesday they will see how ****** there new system is compared to the old one in functionality and useiblity

This is not possible.

The current system needs to be modified to function in a way that people in general will be happy with. I personally like the way it's going but it's current release is horrible.

Considering it's current, unfinished state and the fact that people who read/respond and keep up to date with forums (a very, small percent), the word isn't being heard. Furthermore, a very small fraction of the eve community actually logs into the test server. This new inventory system is going to cause an uproar.

I guess they have no idea the **** storm they are going to kick up, neat. I think they believe that most people know whats happening from the dev blog and are ok, but did we have a real problem until they dropped incarna on live?

I was already out the door, as I had seen the changes on test, but a ton of people I know ingame never get on there or even the forums. The same kind of people that told me just to relax at it would be ok, only to leave after is was on live because my words just really could not convince them how bad it was going to be.

Its happening again,I swear they wont get on the test server because they are afraid of how bad it is, though they won't admit it

Here it comes.

The issue is that they released the dev blog before it's functionality was available to test on SISI. People loved the idea of a new system because frankly, it's needed. However,when it was released for test, the problems all came out and the thread/praises for the new system quickly flipped. Right about when CCP stopped responding to the thread.

This thread was an attempt to remove 'rage' and the white noise from the equation so that CCP can focus on the issues surrounding the inventory system. However, if you go through and read their responses, they respond extremely defensive with the old $1000 jeans response. They're no longer reading this thread and focused on a few poor posters in this thread. Instead of listening to the reason here, they're going to release this inventory system as it is and people... are going to be pissed.

Someone said that inferno is about nerfs and that's exactly what it is.
UI changes are just a big big nerf, especially if you're looting stuff in space or using a carrier/titan.

1. Drone regions getting nerfed
2. Missiles getting nerfed
3. Incursions getting nerfed
4. UI Getting nerfed
5. Loot tables getting nerfed
6. Amarr ships getting wrong color scheme, especially CC ones are now colored as Sarum Family, nerf
7. XL guns getting nerfed
8. Titans Getting nerfed

.. list goes on and on ..

Here's my problem with the current build of the new UI on Sisi:

Let's say I start docked in Aldrat IX - Pator Tech School.

I open the Inventory and shift-click 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' to open them in separate windows, then I move those two new 'Ship' and 'Item' windows to the top-right corner of my screen and resize them to show, let's say 4 rows and 4 columns. I also stack them so now I have a 'Ship Hangar' tab and an 'Item Hangar' tab.

Exhibit A: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/1.jpg


---== Issue #1 ==---
Now I undock, warp across Aldrat to the Caldari Business Tribunal station, and dock there. Lo and behold the 'Item Hangar' and 'Ship Hangar' windows I created have disappeared.

Exhibit B: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/2.jpg

If I now click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom I get the original Inventory window, and I then have to repeat the initial steps above to recreate my ships/item windows.

This happens every time I undock/redock, whether at the same station, a different station in the same system or in another system entirely.

On Tranquility, when I open these two windows and resize and arrange them how I want, they will open in the same position at the same size in every station when I dock. They will even remember which tab was selected!

Having this information instantly available whenever I dock is very useful - please don't make me have to do more clicking to get it


---== Issue #2 ==---
The ship hangar does not show my currently active ship, either in the list view or in the separate 'Ship Hanger' window created with a shift-click. On Tranquility all ships in the hangar are, well, listed in the hangar!


---== Issue #3 ==---
Let's return to the beginning where I had separated out the 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' windows to the top-right of my screen (exhibit A).

Now if I click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom, I get a side-menu asking me to choose either the 'Ship Hangar' or 'Item Hangar' to switch to instead of an Inventory window opening. Shift-clicking this button does exactly the same thing (i.e. nothing).

Now, my intuitive expectation is that clicking this button should open up an new Inventory window (or re-open the 'base' Inventory window). I'd be prepared to accept a shift-click for this functionality instead


---== Issue #4 ==---
The 'xxx isk Est. price' bar at the bottom of the Inventory windows is redundant for me in 99.5% of situations and is just wasting space. Please give me the option to turn it off!


---== Issue #5 ==---
The 'Open Drone Bay' option is missing from the context menu when I right-click my ship in the hangar.


--== Issue #6 ==---
Again, this is something that is very counter-intuitive to me:

Let's say I open up my ship's cargo hold in a separate window, move it to the LHS of my screen and resize it to show 2x3 items.

Now I undock and do some stuff in space. During the course of doing this stuff I drag my 'Ship Cargo' window over to the RHS of my screen. Now I dock up again. As soon as I do this my cargo window shifts back over to the LHS where I originally had it.

Please let my windows stay where I put them as they currently do on Tranquility!


---== Issue #7 ==---
When I double-click my ship in the main ship-spinny hangar view, it opens the "main" Inventory window instead of my smaller ship's 'Cargo Hold' window. It does this regardless of whether I have a 'Cargo Hold' window open or not...

Double-clicking a ship in this view really should just go straight to the cargo without opening a large Inventory window that covers two thirds of my screen.


That's all I've got for the time being, and so far I've only tested some of the more basic things I do in EVE like moving stuff around between stations. I haven't tested the UI functionality when I'm salvaging, hacking, running a mission or looting wrecks...


In its current state I have to say that I'm not looking forward to it being deployed on Tranquility

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Captain Praxis

Well, 2 of my accounts expire at the end of the month. I cant see those being renewed tbh, unless they get this crap sorted.

1 month left on the other 3 accounts. Lets see how it goes for those......